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From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Denis V. Lunev" <den-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	marcus-sJr3legBufCzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org,
	containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org,
	"Denis V. Lunev" <den-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] proc: Do not invalidate dentries with submounts
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:05:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17ijru7v5.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4757CF70.3020508-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org> (Denis V. Lunev's message of "Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:31:12 +0300")

"Denis V. Lunev" <den-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org> writes:

> you have changed the behavior of revalidation by shadows. I think it
> will be better to restore it and keep new one for shadows (and below)
> only, which has been done by my yesterday patch.

- I think it is better to move forward rather then back.
- The old proc dentry caching behavior is actually too aggressive, and has
  problem corner cases.  Keeping the dentries when we have something mounted
  on top is a trade off that is the least of two evils.
- My change fixes the mount leak on all of /proc not just on /proc/generic.

What you did is a hack that restored the old slightly buggy behavior.  Which
is fine if we can't find anything better.  It is not code that is on the
path towards a /proc that properly caches it's dentries.

With the old behavior a random user space application can open a file or
a directory in /proc pinning it's dcache entry.  Then the module supplying
that open file can be removed and reinserted.  Until the user space application
removes reference to that /proc file all you will be able to find is the
version of the file from before /proc was removed.

That sounds like a way to trigger nasty behavior to me.  I would like
to remove that possibility from the kernel if I can.

Eric

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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@sw.ru>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	marcus@better.se, containers@lists.osdl.org, devel@openvz.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] proc: Do not invalidate dentries with submounts
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:05:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17ijru7v5.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4757CF70.3020508@sw.ru> (Denis V. Lunev's message of "Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:31:12 +0300")

"Denis V. Lunev" <den@sw.ru> writes:

> you have changed the behavior of revalidation by shadows. I think it
> will be better to restore it and keep new one for shadows (and below)
> only, which has been done by my yesterday patch.

- I think it is better to move forward rather then back.
- The old proc dentry caching behavior is actually too aggressive, and has
  problem corner cases.  Keeping the dentries when we have something mounted
  on top is a trade off that is the least of two evils.
- My change fixes the mount leak on all of /proc not just on /proc/generic.

What you did is a hack that restored the old slightly buggy behavior.  Which
is fine if we can't find anything better.  It is not code that is on the
path towards a /proc that properly caches it's dentries.

With the old behavior a random user space application can open a file or
a directory in /proc pinning it's dcache entry.  Then the module supplying
that open file can be removed and reinserted.  Until the user space application
removes reference to that /proc file all you will be able to find is the
version of the file from before /proc was removed.

That sounds like a way to trigger nasty behavior to me.  I would like
to remove that possibility from the kernel if I can.

Eric


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-12-06 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-05 14:35 [PATCH] lost content of /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc Denis V. Lunev
2007-12-05 14:35 ` Denis V. Lunev
2007-12-06 10:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-06 10:22 ` [PATCH] proc: Do not invalidate dentries with submounts Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-06 10:31   ` Denis V. Lunev
     [not found]     ` <4757CF70.3020508-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-06 16:05       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2007-12-06 16:05         ` Eric W. Biederman

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