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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>, Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kthread: Don't depend on work queues
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:22:40 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1lkgysrdb.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070411000316.52f2551e.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (Andrew Morton's message of "Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:03:16 -0700")

Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> argh.  Your description freely confuddles the terms "kernel thread" and
> "kthread".  Can we not do that?  Henceforth the term "kernel thread" refers
> to something which was started with kernel_thread() and "kthread" refers to
> something which was created by kthread_create(), OK?

Yes.  Will fix.

> Your patch gets midly tangled up with Oleg's recent
>
> reduce-reparent_to_init.patch
> make-kernel-threads-invisible-to-sbin-init.patch
> reparent-kernel-threads-to-swapper.patch
>
> but they seemed fairly unpopular anyway so I'll drop 'em.

Ok.  I kind of liked the first one but that is a minor cleanup.

> Your wait_event() will contribute to load average, I expect.  We get mail. 
> I converted it to wait_event_interruptible().

Ok.  That is more polite.

> I guess using PF_NOFREEZE rather than try_to_freeze() is OK, but one
> wonders what thinking led to that?

That is what we are currently doing for the work queues, and I was lazy.
For people who care they can fix it.

> Often when we have a singleton thread like this it is neater to use
> wake_up_process() directly on it, rather than creating a rather pointless
> waitqueue_head for it.  I started looking into that but it would have taken
> more than 30 seconds.

Sure I took a look and it isn't too hard.  Updated patch in a minute...

I have left the locking the way it is despite the reasonable chance that
Oleg points I can only acquire the lock when deleting the list entry.
I'm to lazy to think through the SMP races to make certain that is safe.

Eric





  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-11 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-10 18:51 [PATCH 2/3] make kernel threads invisible to /sbin/init Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-10 23:16 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-11  3:29   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-11  3:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-11 11:42   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-11  5:44 ` [PATCH] kthread: Don't depend on work queues Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-11  7:03   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-11 10:13     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-11 11:21       ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-11 11:48         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-11 13:31           ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-11 14:36             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-11 19:37               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-11 14:44             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-11 18:22     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2007-04-11 18:27     ` [PATCH] kthread: Don't depend on work queues (take 2) Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-11 18:49       ` [PATCH] Change reparent_to_init to reparent_to_kthreadd Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-11 19:21       ` [PATCH] kthread: Don't depend on work queues (take 2) Andrew Morton
2007-04-11 19:28       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-11 19:40         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-11 19:49           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-11 20:02             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-11 12:04   ` [PATCH] kthread: Don't depend on work queues Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-11 16:25     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-11 13:15   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-11 16:22     ` Eric W. Biederman

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