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From: Hajime Tazaki <thehajime@gmail.com>
To: geert@linux-m68k.org
Cc: johannes@sipsolutions.net, linux-um@lists.infradead.org,
	ricarkol@google.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, kees@kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 02/13] x86/um: nommu: elf loader for fdpic
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 22:17:49 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2o72jff2a.wl-thehajime@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdVRB46fyFKjZn3Zw2bb8_mqZasqh-J7vse-GQkA3_OQDg@mail.gmail.com>


Hello,

thanks for the inputs Geert, Johannes,

On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:27:08 +0900,
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> 
> Hi Johannes,
> 
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 9:37 AM Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2024-11-13 at 09:36 +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2024-11-13 at 09:19 +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > -       depends on ARM || ((M68K || RISCV || SUPERH || XTENSA) && !MMU)
> > > > > > > +       depends on ARM || ((M68K || RISCV || SUPERH || UML || XTENSA) && !MMU)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > s/UML/X86/?
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess the fdpic loader can be used to X86, but this patchset only
> > > > > adds UML to be able to select it.  I intended to add UML into nommu
> > > > > family.
> > > >
> > > > While currently x86-nommu is supported for UML only, this is really
> > > > x86-specific. I still hope UML will get support for other architectures
> > > > one day, at which point a dependency on UML here will become wrong...
> > > >
> > >
> > > X86 isn't set for UML, X64_32 and X64_64 are though.
> > >
> > > Given that the no-MMU UM support even is 64-bit only, that probably
> > > should then really be (UML && X86_64).
> > >
> > > But it already has !MMU, so can't be selected otherwise, and it seems
> > > that non-X86 UML
> >
> > ... would require far more changes in all kinds of places, so not sure
> > I'd be too concerned about it here.
> 
> OK, up to you...

Indeed, this particular patch [02/13] intends to support the fdpic
loader under the condition 1) x86_64 ELF binaries (w/ PIE), 2) on UML,
3) and with) !MMU configured.  Given that situation, the strict check
should be like:

   depends on ARM || ((M68K || RISCV || SUPERH || (UML && X86_64) || XTENSA) && !MMU)

(as Johannes mentioned).

on the other hand, the fdpic loader works (afaik) on MMU environment so,

   depends on ARM || (UML && X86_64) || ((M68K || RISCV || SUPERH || XTENSA) && !MMU)

should also works, but this might be too broad for this patchset (and
not sure if this makes a new use case).

anyway, thank you for the comment.
# I really wanted to have comments from nommu folks.

-- Hajime


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-13 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-24 12:09 [RFC PATCH 00/13] nommu UML Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-24 12:09 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] fs: binfmt_elf_efpic: add architecture hook elf_arch_finalize_exec Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-24 12:09 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] x86/um: nommu: elf loader for fdpic Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-25  8:56   ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-25 12:54     ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-24 12:09 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] um: nommu: memory handling Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-25  9:11   ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-25 12:55     ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-25 15:15       ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-26  7:24         ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-24 12:09 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] x86/um: nommu: syscall handling Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-25  9:14   ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-25 12:55     ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-24 12:09 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] x86/um: nommu: syscall translation by zpoline Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-25  9:19   ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-25 12:58     ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-25 15:20       ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-26  7:36         ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-27  9:45           ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-28  7:47             ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-24 12:09 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] x86/um: nommu: process/thread handling Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-25  9:22   ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-25 12:58     ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-24 12:09 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] um: nommu: configure fs register on host syscall invocation Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-25  9:28   ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-25 13:27     ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-25 15:22       ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-26  7:34         ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-24 12:09 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] x86/um/vdso: nommu: vdso memory update Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-25  9:29   ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-25 13:28     ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-24 12:09 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] x86/um: nommu: signal handling Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-25  9:30   ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-25 13:04     ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-24 12:09 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] x86/um: nommu: stack save/restore on vfork Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-24 12:09 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] um: change machine name for uname output Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-24 12:09 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] um: nommu: add documentation of nommu UML Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-24 12:09 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] um: nommu: plug nommu code into build system Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-25  9:33   ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-25 13:05     ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-25 15:27       ` Johannes Berg
2024-10-26  7:36         ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-26 10:19 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] nommu UML Benjamin Berg
2024-10-27  9:10   ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-10-28 13:32     ` Benjamin Berg
2024-10-30  9:25       ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-09  0:52         ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11  6:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 " Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11  6:27   ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/13] fs: binfmt_elf_efpic: add architecture hook elf_arch_finalize_exec Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11 22:32     ` kernel test robot
2024-11-11  6:27   ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/13] x86/um: nommu: elf loader for fdpic Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-12 12:48     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-12 22:07       ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-13  8:19         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-13  8:36           ` Johannes Berg
2024-11-13  8:36             ` Johannes Berg
2024-11-13 10:27               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-13 13:17                 ` Hajime Tazaki [this message]
2024-11-13 13:55                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-13 23:32                     ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-14  1:40                       ` Greg Ungerer
2024-11-14 10:41                         ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11  6:27   ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/13] um: nommu: memory handling Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11  6:27   ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/13] x86/um: nommu: syscall handling Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11  6:27   ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/13] x86/um: nommu: syscall translation by zpoline Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11  6:27   ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/13] um: nommu: prevent host syscalls from userspace by seccomp filter Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11  6:27   ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/13] x86/um: nommu: process/thread handling Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11  6:27   ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/13] um: nommu: configure fs register on host syscall invocation Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-12  9:36     ` kernel test robot
2024-11-27 10:00     ` Benjamin Berg
2024-11-27 10:26       ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11  6:27   ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/13] x86/um/vdso: nommu: vdso memory update Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-27 10:36     ` Benjamin Berg
2024-11-27 23:23       ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11  6:27   ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/13] x86/um: nommu: signal handling Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-12 11:00     ` kernel test robot
2024-11-28 10:37     ` Benjamin Berg
2024-12-01  1:38       ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11  6:27   ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/13] um: change machine name for uname output Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11  6:27   ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/13] um: nommu: add documentation of nommu UML Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-11  6:27   ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/13] um: nommu: plug nommu code into build system Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-15 10:12   ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/13] nommu UML Johannes Berg
2024-11-15 10:26     ` Anton Ivanov
2024-11-15 14:54       ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-15 14:48     ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-11-22  9:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-22  9:53     ` Johannes Berg
2024-11-22 10:29       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-22 12:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-22 12:25         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-22 12:38           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-22 12:49             ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-22 12:52               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-23  7:27   ` David Gow
2024-11-24  1:25     ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-03  4:22   ` [PATCH v3 " Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-03  4:23     ` [PATCH v3 01/13] fs: binfmt_elf_efpic: add architecture hook elf_arch_finalize_exec Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-03  4:23     ` [PATCH v3 02/13] x86/um: nommu: elf loader for fdpic Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-04 16:20       ` Johannes Berg
2024-12-05 13:41         ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-03  4:23     ` [PATCH v3 03/13] um: nommu: memory handling Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-04 16:34       ` Johannes Berg
2024-12-05 13:46         ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-03  4:23     ` [PATCH v3 04/13] x86/um: nommu: syscall handling Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-04 16:37       ` Johannes Berg
2024-12-05 13:47         ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-03  4:23     ` [PATCH v3 05/13] x86/um: nommu: syscall translation by zpoline Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-04 16:37       ` Johannes Berg
2024-12-05 13:48         ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-03  4:23     ` [PATCH v3 06/13] um: nommu: syscalls handler from userspace by seccomp filter Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-04 16:42       ` Johannes Berg
2024-12-05 13:51         ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-05 13:54           ` Johannes Berg
2024-12-06  2:51             ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-04 17:54       ` kernel test robot
2024-12-03  4:23     ` [PATCH v3 07/13] x86/um: nommu: process/thread handling Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-04 16:50       ` Johannes Berg
2024-12-05 13:56         ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-05 13:58           ` Johannes Berg
2024-12-06  2:49             ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-03  4:23     ` [PATCH v3 08/13] um: nommu: configure fs register on host syscall invocation Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-04 16:52       ` Johannes Berg
2024-12-04 19:31         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-12-05 13:58           ` Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-03  4:23     ` [PATCH v3 09/13] x86/um/vdso: nommu: vdso memory update Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-03  4:23     ` [PATCH v3 10/13] x86/um: nommu: signal handling Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-03  4:23     ` [PATCH v3 11/13] um: change machine name for uname output Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-03  4:23     ` [PATCH v3 12/13] um: nommu: add documentation of nommu UML Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-03  4:23     ` [PATCH v3 13/13] um: nommu: plug nommu code into build system Hajime Tazaki
2024-12-04 16:20     ` [PATCH v3 00/13] nommu UML Johannes Berg
2024-12-05 13:41       ` Hajime Tazaki

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