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From: Juan Quintela <quintela@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
Cc: John Alvord <jalvo@mbay.net>,
	Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolinux.com>,
	"Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>,
	Ben LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
	Ragnar Kjxrstad <kernel@ragnark.vestdata.no>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mike@bigstorage.com, kevin@bigstorage.com, linux-lvm@sistina.com
Subject: [linux-lvm] Re: [PATCH] 64 bit scsi read/write
Date: 16 Jul 2001 20:31:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ofqk5rb6.fsf@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010715180752.B7993@weta.f00f.org>

>>>>> "chris" == Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org> writes:

chris> On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 11:05:36PM -0700, John Alvord wrote:
chris> In the IBM solution to this (1977-78, VM/CMS) the critical data was
chris> written at the begining and the end of the block. If the two data items
chris> didn't match then the block was rejected.

chris> Neat.


chris> Simple and effective.  Presumably you can also checksum the block, and
chris> check that.

There is the rumor (I can't confirm that), that you need checksums,
that some disks are able to write well the beginning & the end of the
sector and put garbage in the middle in the case of problems.  I
have never been able to reproduce that errors, but ....

Later, Juan.


-- 
In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they 
are different -- Larry McVoy

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From: Juan Quintela <quintela@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
Cc: John Alvord <jalvo@mbay.net>,
	Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolinux.com>,
	"Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>,
	Ben LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
	Ragnar Kjxrstad <kernel@ragnark.vestdata.no>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mike@bigstorage.com, kevin@bigstorage.com, linux-lvm@sistina.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 64 bit scsi read/write
Date: 16 Jul 2001 20:31:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ofqk5rb6.fsf@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.20.0107142304010.17541-100000@otter.mbay.net> <20010715180752.B7993@weta.f00f.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010715180752.B7993@weta.f00f.org>

>>>>> "chris" == Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org> writes:

chris> On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 11:05:36PM -0700, John Alvord wrote:
chris> In the IBM solution to this (1977-78, VM/CMS) the critical data was
chris> written at the begining and the end of the block. If the two data items
chris> didn't match then the block was rejected.

chris> Neat.


chris> Simple and effective.  Presumably you can also checksum the block, and
chris> check that.

There is the rumor (I can't confirm that), that you need checksums,
that some disks are able to write well the beginning & the end of the
sector and put garbage in the middle in the case of problems.  I
have never been able to reproduce that errors, but ....

Later, Juan.


-- 
In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they 
are different -- Larry McVoy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-07-17  0:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-01  4:53 [RFC][PATCH] first cut 64 bit block support Ben LaHaise
2001-07-03  4:53 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-04  2:19   ` [PATCH] 64 bit scsi read/write Ben LaHaise
2001-07-04  7:11     ` Alan Cox
2001-07-05  6:34     ` [linux-lvm] " Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-05  6:34       ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-05  7:35       ` [linux-lvm] " Ben LaHaise
2001-07-05  7:35         ` Ben LaHaise
2001-07-05 16:46         ` [linux-lvm] " AJ Lewis
2001-07-05 17:09         ` Eric M. Hopper
2001-07-10 13:45         ` Heinz J. Mauelshagen
2001-07-13 18:20         ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-13 18:20           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-13 20:41           ` [linux-lvm] " Andreas Dilger
2001-07-13 20:41             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-13 21:07             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-13 22:04               ` [linux-lvm] " Andreas Dilger
2001-07-13 22:04                 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-14  0:49                 ` [linux-lvm] " Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-14  0:49                   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-14 12:27                 ` Paul Jakma
2001-07-14 14:48                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-14 15:42                     ` Paul Jakma
2001-07-14 17:18                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-20 17:03                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-07-16 18:53                   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-16 19:13                     ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-13 21:14             ` [linux-lvm] " Alan Cox
2001-07-13 21:14               ` Alan Cox
2001-07-14  3:23               ` [linux-lvm] " Andrew Morton
2001-07-14  3:23                 ` Andrew Morton
2001-07-14  8:45                 ` [linux-lvm] " Alan Cox
2001-07-14  8:45                   ` Alan Cox
2001-07-14 13:54                   ` [linux-lvm] " Steven Lembark
2001-07-14 14:50                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-14 15:41                     ` [linux-lvm] " Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-14 15:41                       ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-14 17:00                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-14 20:11                     ` [linux-lvm] " Daniel Phillips
2001-07-14 20:11                       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-15  1:21                       ` [linux-lvm] " Andrew Morton
2001-07-15  1:21                         ` Andrew Morton
2001-07-15  1:53                         ` [linux-lvm] " Daniel Phillips
2001-07-15  1:53                           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-15  3:36                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15  6:05                         ` [linux-lvm] " John Alvord
2001-07-15  6:05                           ` John Alvord
2001-07-15  6:07                           ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 13:16                             ` [linux-lvm] " Ken Hirsch
2001-07-15 13:16                               ` Ken Hirsch
2001-07-15 14:50                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 22:14                               ` [linux-lvm] " Daniel Phillips
2001-07-15 22:14                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-17  0:31                             ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2001-07-17  0:31                               ` Juan Quintela
2001-07-15 13:44                         ` [linux-lvm] " Daniel Phillips
2001-07-15 13:44                           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-15 14:39                           ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 15:06                             ` [linux-lvm] " Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15 15:06                               ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15 15:22                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 17:44                                 ` [linux-lvm] " Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15 17:44                                   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15 17:47                               ` [linux-lvm] " Justin T. Gibbs
2001-07-15 17:47                                 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2001-07-15 23:14                                 ` [linux-lvm] " Rod Van Meter
2001-07-15 23:14                                   ` Rod Van Meter
2001-07-16  0:37                                   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-16 15:11                                     ` Rod Van Meter
2001-07-16  8:56                                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-16 13:19                                   ` [linux-lvm] " Daniel Phillips
2001-07-16 13:19                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-16 14:26                                     ` [linux-lvm] " Heinz J. Mauelshagen
2001-07-15 15:32                             ` Alan Cox
2001-07-15 15:32                               ` Alan Cox
2001-07-15 15:33                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 16:24                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-16  1:08                           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-16  8:49                             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-21 19:18                             ` Alexander Griesser
2001-07-22  3:52                               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-23 14:41                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-24  4:29                                   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-24 11:45                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-14 17:33                   ` [linux-lvm] " Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-14 17:33                     ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15  4:02                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15  5:46                       ` [linux-lvm] " Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15  5:46                         ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15 17:10                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 17:39                     ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-26  2:18     ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-26 16:24       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-10 19:42       ` Ben LaHaise
2001-08-10 19:51       ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-08-10 20:02         ` Ben LaHaise
2001-08-11  0:18           ` Steve Lord
2001-08-11 21:44       ` Matti Aarnio
2001-07-04 10:16 ` [RFC][PATCH] first cut 64 bit block support Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-04 16:59   ` Ben LaHaise

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