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From: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: "Pratyush Yadav" <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	"Tudor Ambarus" <tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,
	"Marco Felsch" <m.felsch@pengutronix.de>,
	"Miquel Raynal" <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>,
	"Richard Weinberger" <richard@nod.at>,
	"Vignesh Raghavendra" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Bartosz Golaszewski" <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"Joel Stanley" <joel@jms.id.au>,
	"Andrew Jeffery" <andrew@codeconstruct.com.au>,
	"Nicolas Ferre" <nicolas.ferre@microchip.com>,
	"Alexandre Belloni" <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	"Claudiu Beznea" <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>,
	"Shawn Guo" <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	"Sascha Hauer" <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	"Pengutronix Kernel Team" <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Fabio Estevam" <festevam@gmail.com>,
	"Vladimir Zapolskiy" <vz@mleia.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Gregory Clement" <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
	"Sebastian Hesselbarth" <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>,
	"Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Magnus Damm" <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	"Dinh Nguyen" <dinguyen@kernel.org>,
	"Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Hunter" <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	"Jonathan Neuschäfer" <j.neuschaefer@gmx.net>,
	"Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	"Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Thomas Bogendoerfer" <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	"Huacai Chen" <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	"WANG Xuerui" <kernel@xen0n.name>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-aspeed@lists.ozlabs.org, imx@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	loongarch@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] mtd: devices: add AT24 eeprom support
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 16:15:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mafs0ed8byj5z.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240702-congenial-vigilant-boar-aeae44@houat> (Maxime Ripard's message of "Tue, 2 Jul 2024 15:56:52 +0200")

On Tue, Jul 02 2024, Maxime Ripard wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 03:41:52PM GMT, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 01 2024, Tudor Ambarus wrote:
>> 
>> > On 7/1/24 2:53 PM, Marco Felsch wrote:
>> >> EEPROMs can become quite large nowadays (>=64K). Exposing such devices
>> >> as single device isn't always sufficient. There may be partitions which
>> >> require different access permissions. Also write access always need to
>> >> to verify the offset.
>> >> 
>> >> Port the current misc/eeprom/at24.c driver to the MTD framework since
>> >> EEPROMs are memory-technology devices and the framework already supports
>> >
>> > I was under the impression that MTD devices are tightly coupled by erase
>> > blocks. But then we see MTD_NO_ERASE, so what are MTD devices after all?
>> 
>> I was curious as well so I did some digging.
>> 
[...]
>> 
>> I also found a thread from 2013 by Maxime Ripard (+Cc) suggesting adding
>> EEPROMs to MTD [1]. The main purpose would have been unifying the EEPROM
>> drivers under a single interface. I am not sure what came of it though,
>> since I can't find any patches that followed up with the proposal.
>
> That discussion led to drivers/nvmem after I started to work on
> some early prototype, and Srinivas took over that work.

So would you say it is better for EEPROM drivers to use nvmem instead of
moving under MTD?

-- 
Regards,
Pratyush Yadav

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From: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
To: linux-aspeed@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: [PATCH 4/9] mtd: devices: add AT24 eeprom support
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 14:15:31 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mafs0ed8byj5z.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240702-congenial-vigilant-boar-aeae44@houat> (Maxime Ripard's message of "Tue, 2 Jul 2024 15:56:52 +0200")

On Tue, Jul 02 2024, Maxime Ripard wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 03:41:52PM GMT, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 01 2024, Tudor Ambarus wrote:
>> 
>> > On 7/1/24 2:53 PM, Marco Felsch wrote:
>> >> EEPROMs can become quite large nowadays (>=64K). Exposing such devices
>> >> as single device isn't always sufficient. There may be partitions which
>> >> require different access permissions. Also write access always need to
>> >> to verify the offset.
>> >> 
>> >> Port the current misc/eeprom/at24.c driver to the MTD framework since
>> >> EEPROMs are memory-technology devices and the framework already supports
>> >
>> > I was under the impression that MTD devices are tightly coupled by erase
>> > blocks. But then we see MTD_NO_ERASE, so what are MTD devices after all?
>> 
>> I was curious as well so I did some digging.
>> 
[...]
>> 
>> I also found a thread from 2013 by Maxime Ripard (+Cc) suggesting adding
>> EEPROMs to MTD [1]. The main purpose would have been unifying the EEPROM
>> drivers under a single interface. I am not sure what came of it though,
>> since I can't find any patches that followed up with the proposal.
>
> That discussion led to drivers/nvmem after I started to work on
> some early prototype, and Srinivas took over that work.

So would you say it is better for EEPROM drivers to use nvmem instead of
moving under MTD?

-- 
Regards,
Pratyush Yadav

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: "Pratyush Yadav" <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	"Tudor Ambarus" <tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,
	"Marco Felsch" <m.felsch@pengutronix.de>,
	"Miquel Raynal" <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>,
	"Richard Weinberger" <richard@nod.at>,
	"Vignesh Raghavendra" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Bartosz Golaszewski" <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"Joel Stanley" <joel@jms.id.au>,
	"Andrew Jeffery" <andrew@codeconstruct.com.au>,
	"Nicolas Ferre" <nicolas.ferre@microchip.com>,
	"Alexandre Belloni" <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	"Claudiu Beznea" <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>,
	"Shawn Guo" <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	"Sascha Hauer" <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	"Pengutronix Kernel Team" <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Fabio Estevam" <festevam@gmail.com>,
	"Vladimir Zapolskiy" <vz@mleia.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Gregory Clement" <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
	"Sebastian Hesselbarth" <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>,
	"Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Magnus Damm" <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	"Dinh Nguyen" <dinguyen@kernel.org>,
	"Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Hunter" <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	"Jonathan Neuschäfer" <j.neuschaefer@gmx.net>,
	"Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	"Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Thomas Bogendoerfer" <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	"Huacai Chen" <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	"WANG Xuerui" <kernel@xen0n.name>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-aspeed@lists.ozlabs.org, imx@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	loongarch@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] mtd: devices: add AT24 eeprom support
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 16:15:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mafs0ed8byj5z.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240702-congenial-vigilant-boar-aeae44@houat> (Maxime Ripard's message of "Tue, 2 Jul 2024 15:56:52 +0200")

On Tue, Jul 02 2024, Maxime Ripard wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 03:41:52PM GMT, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 01 2024, Tudor Ambarus wrote:
>> 
>> > On 7/1/24 2:53 PM, Marco Felsch wrote:
>> >> EEPROMs can become quite large nowadays (>=64K). Exposing such devices
>> >> as single device isn't always sufficient. There may be partitions which
>> >> require different access permissions. Also write access always need to
>> >> to verify the offset.
>> >> 
>> >> Port the current misc/eeprom/at24.c driver to the MTD framework since
>> >> EEPROMs are memory-technology devices and the framework already supports
>> >
>> > I was under the impression that MTD devices are tightly coupled by erase
>> > blocks. But then we see MTD_NO_ERASE, so what are MTD devices after all?
>> 
>> I was curious as well so I did some digging.
>> 
[...]
>> 
>> I also found a thread from 2013 by Maxime Ripard (+Cc) suggesting adding
>> EEPROMs to MTD [1]. The main purpose would have been unifying the EEPROM
>> drivers under a single interface. I am not sure what came of it though,
>> since I can't find any patches that followed up with the proposal.
>
> That discussion led to drivers/nvmem after I started to work on
> some early prototype, and Srinivas took over that work.

So would you say it is better for EEPROM drivers to use nvmem instead of
moving under MTD?

-- 
Regards,
Pratyush Yadav

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From: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: "Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Alexandre Belloni" <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	"Vignesh Raghavendra" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	imx@lists.linux.dev, "Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>,
	"Marco Felsch" <m.felsch@pengutronix.de>,
	"Nicolas Ferre" <nicolas.ferre@microchip.com>,
	"Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org,
	"Miquel Raynal" <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>,
	"WANG Xuerui" <kernel@xen0n.name>,
	"Fabio Estevam" <festevam@gmail.com>,
	linux-aspeed@lists.ozlabs.org,
	"Richard Weinberger" <richard@nod.at>,
	"Bartosz Golaszewski" <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	"Huacai Chen" <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	"Jonathan Hunter" <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	"Tudor Ambarus" <tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,
	"Joel Stanley" <joel@jms.id.au>,
	"Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Andrew Jeffery" <andrew@codeconstruct.com.au>,
	"Sebastian Hesselbarth" <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org, "Sascha Hauer" <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	"Jonathan Neuschäfer" <j.neuschaefer@gmx.net>,
	"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"Vladimir Zapolskiy" <vz@mleia.com>,
	loongarch@lists.linux.dev, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Thomas Bogendoerfer" <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	"Claudiu Beznea" <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	"Dinh Nguyen" <dinguyen@kernel.org>,
	"Pengutronix Kernel Team" <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Shawn Guo" <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	"Gregory Clement" <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
	"Pratyush Yadav" <pratyush@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] mtd: devices: add AT24 eeprom support
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 16:15:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mafs0ed8byj5z.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240702-congenial-vigilant-boar-aeae44@houat> (Maxime Ripard's message of "Tue, 2 Jul 2024 15:56:52 +0200")

On Tue, Jul 02 2024, Maxime Ripard wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 03:41:52PM GMT, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 01 2024, Tudor Ambarus wrote:
>> 
>> > On 7/1/24 2:53 PM, Marco Felsch wrote:
>> >> EEPROMs can become quite large nowadays (>=64K). Exposing such devices
>> >> as single device isn't always sufficient. There may be partitions which
>> >> require different access permissions. Also write access always need to
>> >> to verify the offset.
>> >> 
>> >> Port the current misc/eeprom/at24.c driver to the MTD framework since
>> >> EEPROMs are memory-technology devices and the framework already supports
>> >
>> > I was under the impression that MTD devices are tightly coupled by erase
>> > blocks. But then we see MTD_NO_ERASE, so what are MTD devices after all?
>> 
>> I was curious as well so I did some digging.
>> 
[...]
>> 
>> I also found a thread from 2013 by Maxime Ripard (+Cc) suggesting adding
>> EEPROMs to MTD [1]. The main purpose would have been unifying the EEPROM
>> drivers under a single interface. I am not sure what came of it though,
>> since I can't find any patches that followed up with the proposal.
>
> That discussion led to drivers/nvmem after I started to work on
> some early prototype, and Srinivas took over that work.

So would you say it is better for EEPROM drivers to use nvmem instead of
moving under MTD?

-- 
Regards,
Pratyush Yadav

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-02 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-01 13:53 [PATCH 0/9] AT24 EEPROM MTD Support Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 14:15 ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53 ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53 ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53 ` [PATCH 1/9] mtd: core: add nvmem_write support Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 14:14   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53 ` [PATCH 2/9] mtd: add mtd_is_master helper Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 14:15   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 16:14   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2024-07-01 16:14     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2024-07-01 16:14     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2024-07-01 16:14     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2024-07-02  8:22     ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-02  8:39       ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-02  8:22       ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-02  8:22       ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-02  8:22       ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53 ` [PATCH 3/9] mtd: add support to handle EEPROM devices Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 14:15   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53 ` [PATCH 4/9] mtd: devices: add AT24 eeprom support Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 14:15   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 16:14   ` Tudor Ambarus
2024-07-01 16:14     ` Tudor Ambarus
2024-07-01 16:14     ` Tudor Ambarus
2024-07-01 16:14     ` Tudor Ambarus
2024-07-02 13:41     ` Pratyush Yadav
2024-07-02 13:42       ` Pratyush Yadav
2024-07-02 13:41       ` Pratyush Yadav
2024-07-02 13:41       ` Pratyush Yadav
2024-07-02 13:56       ` Maxime Ripard
2024-07-02 13:56         ` Maxime Ripard
2024-07-02 13:56         ` Maxime Ripard
2024-07-02 13:56         ` Maxime Ripard
2024-07-02 14:15         ` Pratyush Yadav [this message]
2024-07-02 14:15           ` Pratyush Yadav
2024-07-02 14:15           ` Pratyush Yadav
2024-07-02 14:15           ` Pratyush Yadav
2024-07-02 14:34           ` Maxime Ripard
2024-07-02 14:34             ` Maxime Ripard
2024-07-02 14:34             ` Maxime Ripard
2024-07-02 14:34             ` Maxime Ripard
2024-07-08  6:44             ` Miquel Raynal
2024-07-08  7:05               ` Miquel Raynal
2024-07-08  6:44               ` Miquel Raynal
2024-07-08  6:44               ` Miquel Raynal
2024-07-09  9:22               ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-09  9:24                 ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-09  9:22                 ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-09  9:22                 ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-09  9:43                 ` Miquel Raynal
2024-07-09  9:43                   ` Miquel Raynal
2024-07-09  9:43                   ` Miquel Raynal
2024-07-09  9:43                   ` Miquel Raynal
2024-07-09 10:38                   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-09 10:39                     ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-09 10:38                     ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-09 10:38                     ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-17  8:19                     ` Miquel Raynal
2024-07-17  8:20                       ` Miquel Raynal
2024-07-17  8:19                       ` Miquel Raynal
2024-07-17  8:19                       ` Miquel Raynal
2024-07-18  9:17                       ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-18  9:20                         ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-18  9:17                         ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-18  9:17                         ` Marco Felsch
2024-08-23 15:37                         ` Miquel Raynal
2024-08-23 15:37                           ` Miquel Raynal
2024-08-23 15:37                           ` Miquel Raynal
2024-07-01 13:53 ` [PATCH 5/9] ARM: defconfig: convert to MTD_EEPROM_AT24 Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 14:15   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-10 12:48   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-10 12:56     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-10 12:48     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-10 12:48     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-10 12:59     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-07-10 13:00       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-07-10 12:59       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-07-10 12:59       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-07-10 12:59       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-07-10 14:06       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-10 14:06         ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-10 14:06         ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-10 14:06         ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-01 13:53 ` [PATCH 6/9] powerpc: " Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 14:15   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53 ` [PATCH 7/9] MIPS: configs: " Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 14:14   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53 ` [PATCH 8/9] LoongArch: " Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 14:15   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53 ` [PATCH 9/9] eeprom: at24: remove deprecated Kconfig symbol Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 14:15   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-01 13:53   ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-02  8:57   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-07-02  8:57     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-07-02  8:57     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-07-02  8:57     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-07-02  8:57     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-07-02  9:15     ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-02  9:16       ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-02  9:15       ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-02  9:15       ` Marco Felsch
2024-07-02  9:15       ` Marco Felsch
2024-08-23 16:24 ` [PATCH 0/9] AT24 EEPROM MTD Support Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-23 16:24   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-23 16:24   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-23 16:24   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-26  7:51   ` Marco Felsch
2024-08-26  7:51     ` Marco Felsch
2024-08-26  7:51     ` Marco Felsch
2024-08-26  7:51     ` Marco Felsch
2024-08-26 10:32     ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-26 10:32       ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-26 10:32       ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-26 10:32       ` Andy Shevchenko

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