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From: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
Cc: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	 akpm@linux-foundation.org, brauner@kernel.org,  corbet@lwn.net,
	 graf@amazon.com,  jgg@ziepe.ca, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 masahiroy@kernel.org,  ojeda@kernel.org, rdunlap@infradead.org,
	 rppt@kernel.org,  tj@kernel.org, jasonmiu@google.com,
	 dmatlack@google.com,  skhawaja@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] liveupdate: kho: warn and fail on metadata or preserved memory in scratch area
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 15:11:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mafs0qzv4jomq.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+CK2bD4z_j_jMhMtrvvQ5nOMEFT6yrRHk9rk7BEiQPSPCHiqA@mail.gmail.com> (Pasha Tatashin's message of "Wed, 15 Oct 2025 08:40:26 -0400")

On Wed, Oct 15 2025, Pasha Tatashin wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 8:10 AM Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 15 2025, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
>>
>> > It is invalid for KHO metadata or preserved memory regions to be located
>> > within the KHO scratch area, as this area is overwritten when the next
>> > kernel is loaded, and used early in boot by the next kernel. This can
>> > lead to memory corruption.
>> >
>> > Adds checks to kho_preserve_* and KHO's internal metadata allocators
>> > (xa_load_or_alloc, new_chunk) to verify that the physical address of the
>> > memory does not overlap with any defined scratch region. If an overlap
>> > is detected, the operation will fail and a WARN_ON is triggered. To
>> > avoid performance overhead in production kernels, these checks are
>> > enabled only when CONFIG_KEXEC_HANDOVER_DEBUG is selected.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
>> > ---
>> >  kernel/liveupdate/Kconfig                   | 15 ++++++++++
>> >  kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover.c          | 32 ++++++++++++++++++---
>> >  kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover_debug.c    | 18 ++++++++++++
>> >  kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover_internal.h |  9 ++++++
>> >  4 files changed, 70 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/kernel/liveupdate/Kconfig b/kernel/liveupdate/Kconfig
>> > index 522b9f74d605..d119f4f3f4b1 100644
>> > --- a/kernel/liveupdate/Kconfig
>> > +++ b/kernel/liveupdate/Kconfig
>> > @@ -27,4 +27,19 @@ config KEXEC_HANDOVER_DEBUGFS
>> >         Also, enables inspecting the KHO fdt trees with the debugfs binary
>> >         blobs.
>> >
>> > +config KEXEC_HANDOVER_DEBUG
>> > +     bool "Enable Kexec Handover debug checks"
>> > +     depends on KEXEC_HANDOVER_DEBUGFS
>>
>> Why the dependency on debugfs? Why can't the debug checks be enabled
>> independently?
>
> Because there is one kexec_handover_debug.c file, that I thought would
> make sense to use for both, but now thinking about this, perhaps we
> should split the code: KEXEC_HANDOVER_DEBUGFS and
> KEXEC_HANDOVER_DEBUG, and add two files:
> kexec_handover_debugfs.c and kexec_handover_debug.c, this would avoid
> ifdefs in .c.

Sounds good.

>
>>
>> > +     help
>> > +       This option enables extra sanity checks for the Kexec Handover
>> > +       subsystem.
>> > +
>> > +       These checks verify that neither preserved memory regions nor KHO's
>> > +       internal metadata are allocated from within a KHO scratch area.
>> > +       An overlap can lead to memory corruption during a subsequent kexec
>> > +       operation.
>>
>> I don't think the checks that are done should be listed here since as
>> soon as another check is added this list will become out of date.
>
> I thought it could be expanded when new features are added, but I can
> remove this description.

Yes, but it is easy to forget to do so.

>
>>
>> > +
>> > +       If an overlap is detected, the kernel will print a warning and the
>> > +       offending operation will fail. This should only be enabled for
>>
>> This also describes the behaviour of the checks, which might change
>> later. Maybe for some checks the operation won't fail? I suppose just
>> leave it at "the kernel will print a warning"?
>
> If it changes, and Kconfig should be updated as well.
>
>>
>> > +       debugging purposes due to runtime overhead.
>> >  endmenu
[...]

-- 
Regards,
Pratyush Yadav

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-15 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-15  5:31 [PATCH 0/2] KHO: Fix metadata allocation in scratch area Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-15  5:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] liveupdate: kho: warn and fail on metadata or preserved memory " Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-15  8:21   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-10-15 12:36     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-16 17:23       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-10-18 15:31         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-18 15:28       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-15 12:10   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-15 12:40     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-15 13:11       ` Pratyush Yadav [this message]
2025-10-15  5:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] liveupdate: kho: allocate metadata directly from the buddy allocator Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-15  8:37   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-10-15 12:46     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-15 13:05   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-15 14:19     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-15 14:36       ` Alexander Potapenko
2025-10-24 13:25       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-24 13:57         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-24 14:20           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-24 14:36             ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-24 14:55               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-24 15:06                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-15 14:22     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-24 13:21   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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