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From: Gerry Creager N5JXS <gerry@cs.tamu.edu>
To: lartc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LARTC] Re: further CBQ/tc documentation ds9a.nl/lartc/manpages
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:56:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-lartc-100799272802579@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-lartc-100785524509147@msgid-missing>

bert hubert wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 10:59:38AM +0100, Henrik Nordstrom wrote:
> 
> > TCP is generally too smart to be delayed proper by "randomly" dropped packets
> > without any signs in RTT. Especially when the RTT is small.
> 
> Richard Stevens disagrees with you.
> 
> > And such a administrative boundary is the one I am playing on. The boundary
> > between a small customer and his ISP. The ISP obviously have the luxury of
> > egress, but the customer does not on traffic received by him.
> >
> > Exacly how would this need vanish?
> 
> You can turn ingress into egress by inserting another machine of course.
> Ingress shaping, well, is weird if you have no concept of an 'ingress
> queue'.

Once you start working with tagging for DiffServ, you find that an
ingress queue is a valuable idea.  From our perspective here it is a
differentiator in looking at some of the "big iron" from the likes of
Juniper, Anritsu, Marconi, Cisco and Alcatel.

Specifically, we're looking at priority queueing for management of
various services:  VoIP, streaming video (unicast and multicast), H.323,
etc.  Ingress queueing provides us an opportunity to tag and shape
coming into the router rather than simply shaping on egress.  Our campus
requires (geographic considerations) 7 internal routers before we come
to the edge.  We have to shape on ingress at the first one, then
maintain the marking and policies throughout the network.
--
Gerry Creager -- gerry@cs.tamu.edu
Network Engineering
Academy for Advanced Telecommunications and Learning Technologies		
Texas A&M University	979.458.4020  (Phone) -- 979.847.8578  (Fax)

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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-08 20:43 [LARTC] Re: further CBQ/tc documentation ds9a.nl/lartc/manpages jamal
2001-12-08 21:30 ` bert hubert
2001-12-08 21:56 ` jamal
2001-12-08 23:08 ` bert hubert
2001-12-08 23:29 ` jamal
2001-12-08 23:30 ` jamal
2001-12-08 23:45 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2001-12-08 23:54 ` bert hubert
2001-12-09  1:19 ` jamal
2001-12-09  1:35 ` bert hubert
2001-12-09  2:11 ` jamal
2001-12-09  2:30 ` jamal
2001-12-09 11:38 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2001-12-09 14:40 ` bert hubert
2001-12-09 14:49 ` jamal
2001-12-09 15:01 ` jamal
2001-12-09 15:49 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2001-12-09 16:45 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2001-12-09 21:41 ` jamal
2001-12-09 22:33 ` Michael T. Babcock
2001-12-09 22:36 ` Michael T. Babcock
2001-12-10  1:12 ` Cédric Rivard
2001-12-10  7:53 ` Don Cohen
2001-12-10  8:38 ` Martin Devera
2001-12-10  8:41 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2001-12-10  9:59 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2001-12-10 11:35 ` Martin Devera
2001-12-10 11:59 ` Martin Devera
2001-12-10 12:00 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2001-12-10 12:14 ` bert hubert
2001-12-10 12:25 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2001-12-10 12:52 ` Martin Devera
2001-12-10 13:29 ` jamal
2001-12-10 13:40 ` Martin Devera
2001-12-10 13:42 ` Jim Fleming
2001-12-10 13:52 ` Michael T. Babcock
2001-12-10 13:54 ` Michael T. Babcock
2001-12-10 13:56 ` Gerry Creager N5JXS [this message]
2001-12-10 13:58 ` Michael T. Babcock
2001-12-10 14:02 ` Martin Devera
2001-12-10 14:51 ` Jim Fleming

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