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From: don-lartc@isis.cs3-inc.com (Don Cohen)
To: lartc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LARTC] Per-connection routing for multiple uplinks/providers
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:26:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-lartc-101898898524508@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-lartc-101890143014670@msgid-missing>


Bob Gustafson writes:
 > But, But, - this is really just software. We are not trying to cram wine
 > bottles down the internet pipe (although many would really like to do
 > that!).

The limitations I point out are inherent in tcp/ip.  I think I sent a
proposal to this list describing a modification to tcp that would
allow one connection to use many ip addresses (for each endpoint).
That would allow substantial improvement, since you would be able to
switch addresses in "mid stream" (in a live connection).  It would not
solve all of the problems.  In particular, you would not be able to
efficiently use both/all addresses at once because tcp has been
adapted to work well in the case where packets arrive in order.  That
could also perhaps be overcome with changes to tcp.  Note, however,
that these changes would only help you in cases where both machines
are using the modified versions.

 > >From the requestee point of view, I know how much bandwidth I need to
 > listen to the BBC newscast, or to a company conference call. I can also
 > request email and ftp sessions to work in the 'background' at a lower
 > bandwidth allocation (cost?), but if I am talking to someone interactively,
 > it would be nice if my packets were transferred at a regular rate without
 > jitter or delay. IP doesn't do this, and one can argue that it cannot. But,
 > the whole thing is run by software and software can change.

All of the things above can already be done on a single link.
What cannot be done is make two links work like one with the 
sum of the bandwidth.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-04-16 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-15 20:08 [LARTC] Per-connection routing for multiple uplinks/providers ?? Bob Gustafson
2002-04-15 21:55 ` [LARTC] Per-connection routing for multiple uplinks/providers Arthur van Leeuwen
2002-04-16  6:01 ` Bob Gustafson
2002-04-16  6:56 ` Arthur van Leeuwen
2002-04-16 11:48 ` Patrick McHardy
2002-04-16 13:38 ` Mihai RUSU
2002-04-16 13:57 ` Patrick McHardy
2002-04-16 14:14 ` Mihai RUSU
2002-04-16 20:01 ` Bob Gustafson
2002-04-16 20:26 ` Don Cohen [this message]
2002-04-16 21:38 ` Bob Gustafson
2002-04-28 15:27 ` [LARTC] Per-connection routing for multiple uplinks/providers ?? mikee

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