* [LARTC] dsl latency...
@ 2002-10-04 4:14 Mattt
2002-10-04 4:24 ` Mattt
2002-10-04 13:48 ` Stef Coene
0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Mattt @ 2002-10-04 4:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lartc
Hi all,
I've gotten the WonderShaper (slightly modified) running on the
router. We have a 512/128 connection, and I set DOWNLINK00, UPLINK\x100
(the link is currently under-utilised, and huge performance is not
required at this stage). All appears well (at least, it's stable), but I
have two questions.
Firstly, given that the link is *very* under-utilised, does the
following output look reasonable? It looks as if only qdisc has actually
seen traffic :
=====
jenner:/etc/firewall/wondershaper-1.1a# ./wshaper status
qdisc ingress ffff: ----------------
Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
qdisc sfq 30: quantum 1514b perturb 10sec
Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
qdisc sfq 20: quantum 1514b perturb 10sec
Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
qdisc sfq 10: quantum 1514b perturb 10sec
Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
qdisc cbq 1: rate 10Mbit (bounded,isolated) prio no-transmit
Sent 2896610 bytes 29310 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
borrowed 0 overactions 0 avgidle 624 undertime 0
class cbq 1: root rate 10Mbit (bounded,isolated) prio no-transmit
Sent 2896610 bytes 29310 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
borrowed 0 overactions 0 avgidle 624 undertime 0
class cbq 1:10 parent 1:1 leaf 10: rate 100Kbit prio 1
Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
borrowed 0 overactions 0 avgidle 624 undertime 0
class cbq 1:1 parent 1: rate 100Kbit (bounded,isolated) prio 5
Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
borrowed 0 overactions 0 avgidle 624 undertime 0
class cbq 1:20 parent 1:1 leaf 20: rate 90Kbit prio 2
Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
borrowed 0 overactions 0 avgidle 624 undertime 0
class cbq 1:30 parent 1:1 leaf 30: rate 80Kbit prio 2
Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
borrowed 0 overactions 0 avgidle 624 undertime 0
jenner:/etc/firewall/wondershaper-1.1a#
=====
Also, I'm noticing a fair wait before, for instance, downloading a web
site (although the phenomenom is also quite apparent over at least most
protocols, though). Say, perhaps, 1 or 2 seconds before *any* page
'instantaneously' appears ;-)
We run our own DNS, as well as a DNS cache (the djbdns package), so
lookups should not be causing a problem (in fact, they're not - this
only happens to traffic leaving the DSL interface).
I realise that DSL latency isn't as good as some other technologies,
but is this something I should be able to minimise the effect of?
Admittedly, it sounds to me as if the traffic is still queuing at the
modem - have I simply done something stupid? I'm applying the qdiscs to
eth3 rather than ppp0 (as applying them to ppp0 would oops the kernel
after less than a minute or two reliably...).
I'm new to lartc, but learning (through necessity). I can't help but
feel that my questions here are actually related - the lack of counter
data on the qdiscs, the classic symtoms(?) of DSL latency... Is it even
working for me?
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2002-10-04 4:14 [LARTC] dsl latency Mattt
@ 2002-10-04 4:24 ` Mattt
2002-10-04 13:48 ` Stef Coene
1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Mattt @ 2002-10-04 4:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lartc
Was just reading over the script, and remembered that I re-installed it
fresh... it's *not* slightly modified as stated below, other than the
d/u link numbers... the noprio stuff is all empty...
On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 14:14, Mattt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've gotten the WonderShaper (slightly modified) running on the
> router. We have a 512/128 connection, and I set DOWNLINK00, UPLINK\x100
> (the link is currently under-utilised, and huge performance is not
> required at this stage). All appears well (at least, it's stable), but I
> have two questions.
>
> Firstly, given that the link is *very* under-utilised, does the
> following output look reasonable? It looks as if only qdisc has actually
> seen traffic :
>
> =====
> jenner:/etc/firewall/wondershaper-1.1a# ./wshaper status
> qdisc ingress ffff: ----------------
> Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
>
> qdisc sfq 30: quantum 1514b perturb 10sec
> Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
>
> qdisc sfq 20: quantum 1514b perturb 10sec
> Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
>
> qdisc sfq 10: quantum 1514b perturb 10sec
> Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
>
> qdisc cbq 1: rate 10Mbit (bounded,isolated) prio no-transmit
> Sent 2896610 bytes 29310 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> borrowed 0 overactions 0 avgidle 624 undertime 0
>
> class cbq 1: root rate 10Mbit (bounded,isolated) prio no-transmit
> Sent 2896610 bytes 29310 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> borrowed 0 overactions 0 avgidle 624 undertime 0
> class cbq 1:10 parent 1:1 leaf 10: rate 100Kbit prio 1
> Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> borrowed 0 overactions 0 avgidle 624 undertime 0
> class cbq 1:1 parent 1: rate 100Kbit (bounded,isolated) prio 5
> Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> borrowed 0 overactions 0 avgidle 624 undertime 0
> class cbq 1:20 parent 1:1 leaf 20: rate 90Kbit prio 2
> Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> borrowed 0 overactions 0 avgidle 624 undertime 0
> class cbq 1:30 parent 1:1 leaf 30: rate 80Kbit prio 2
> Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> borrowed 0 overactions 0 avgidle 624 undertime 0
> jenner:/etc/firewall/wondershaper-1.1a#
> =====
>
> Also, I'm noticing a fair wait before, for instance, downloading a web
> site (although the phenomenom is also quite apparent over at least most
> protocols, though). Say, perhaps, 1 or 2 seconds before *any* page
> 'instantaneously' appears ;-)
>
> We run our own DNS, as well as a DNS cache (the djbdns package), so
> lookups should not be causing a problem (in fact, they're not - this
> only happens to traffic leaving the DSL interface).
>
> I realise that DSL latency isn't as good as some other technologies,
> but is this something I should be able to minimise the effect of?
>
> Admittedly, it sounds to me as if the traffic is still queuing at the
> modem - have I simply done something stupid? I'm applying the qdiscs to
> eth3 rather than ppp0 (as applying them to ppp0 would oops the kernel
> after less than a minute or two reliably...).
>
> I'm new to lartc, but learning (through necessity). I can't help but
> feel that my questions here are actually related - the lack of counter
> data on the qdiscs, the classic symtoms(?) of DSL latency... Is it even
> working for me?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Mattt. icq : 117539757
> aboveNetworks www : www.above.nq4u.net
> mattt@above.nq4u.net jabber: mattt@jabber.above.nq4u.net
>
> What's got four legs and an arm? A happy Pit Bull...
>
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aboveNetworks www : www.above.nq4u.net
mattt@above.nq4u.net jabber: mattt@jabber.above.nq4u.net
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread* Re: [LARTC] dsl latency...
2002-10-04 4:14 [LARTC] dsl latency Mattt
2002-10-04 4:24 ` Mattt
@ 2002-10-04 13:48 ` Stef Coene
1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Stef Coene @ 2002-10-04 13:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lartc
On Friday 04 October 2002 06:24, Mattt wrote:
> Was just reading over the script, and remembered that I re-installed it
> fresh... it's *not* slightly modified as stated below, other than the
> d/u link numbers... the noprio stuff is all empty...
All packets are ending up in the root qdisc so you have a problem with your
filters. Can you check it out ?
With no filters you are not shaping at all .....
Stef
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