[LARTC] share 2Mbit between 90 users - what's sensible?

[LARTC] share 2Mbit between 90 users - what's sensible?

[Björn Snippe]

Hi,

I've read through the bigger parts of the docs, but I'm still fairly new 
to this, so I would like to ask you for a little advice.

I've set up a 266Mhz-Linux-Router running a "Bering"-LEAF distribution, 
which provides shaping of a 2 Mbit SDSL-Line for about 90 users.
We have quite a lot of P2P-users (student's dorm *g*), so the link 
became congested quite regularly.

I've set up 90 subclasses borrowing from a HTB root class.
Traffic is filtered to them based on (static) source IPs.
The main reason for this are the users saying: "I've paid for my share 
of bandwidth, which should be at least xy kBps, so that's the least I 
can expect!"
Now I would like to prioritize interactive traffic for every user, too.
What's the most elegant way to do this? Create 90 more classes with a 
better priority?
Isn't there a better way?

Thanks for your patience,
Björn Snippe
Hannover, Germany

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Re: [LARTC] share 2Mbit between 90 users - what's sensible?

[Jason Tackaberry]

On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 11:13, Björn Snippe wrote:
> which provides shaping of a 2 Mbit SDSL-Line for about 90 users.
> We have quite a lot of P2P-users (student's dorm *g*), so the link 

I have a similar setup.  I'm a bit better off -- 3Mbit for our small
campus, which includes about 50-60 dorm users.

I've allocated about 2.2Mbit up/down for the residences, so they can
never exceed that.  We have our share of p2p users too.  At first I
tried creating a p2p class and assigning known p2p ports to that class,
but it was just too difficult to keep up with it.

> Now I would like to prioritize interactive traffic for every user, too.
> What's the most elegant way to do this? Create 90 more classes with a 
> better priority?

What you want is ESFQ (you can google it).  This lets you hash based on
source and dest IPs as well.  So, instead of creating 90 separate
subclasses, you just attach an esfq qdisc to your htb class that hashes
on source IP for your internet interface, and dest IP for your dorm
interface.  When there is competition for bandwidth, it will be shared
evenly between users, no matter how many concurrent sessions they have
running.  This means you don't need to make N subclasses for N users.

To improve responsiveness, I put ACKs and SYNs in a separate, high
priority class.  With a reasonable burst rate (I use 50k), this means
that things like web browsing is still fairly snappy, even when there is
a fair bit of bandwidth competition going on.

I've been running this (HTB + ESFQ) for many months and am quite happy
with it.  So are my users.  I still try to educate everyone about
disabling uploading in their p2p programs, which tends to require
constant reminders, but overall they're pretty good.

Cheers,
Jason.

-- 
Jason Tackaberry  ::  tack@auc.ca  :: 705-949-2301 x330 
Academic Computing Support Specialist
Information Technology Services
Algoma University College  ::  www.auc.ca


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RE: [LARTC] share 2Mbit between 90 users - what's sensible?

[S Mohan]

wondershaper has a set of rules for this. Why not borrow those rules and
implement them?

Mohan

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Subject: [LARTC] share 2Mbit between 90 users - what's sensible?


Hi,

I've read through the bigger parts of the docs, but I'm still fairly new
to this, so I would like to ask you for a little advice.

I've set up a 266Mhz-Linux-Router running a "Bering"-LEAF distribution,
which provides shaping of a 2 Mbit SDSL-Line for about 90 users.
We have quite a lot of P2P-users (student's dorm *g*), so the link
became congested quite regularly.

I've set up 90 subclasses borrowing from a HTB root class.
Traffic is filtered to them based on (static) source IPs.
The main reason for this are the users saying: "I've paid for my share
of bandwidth, which should be at least xy kBps, so that's the least I
can expect!"
Now I would like to prioritize interactive traffic for every user, too.
What's the most elegant way to do this? Create 90 more classes with a
better priority?
Isn't there a better way?

Thanks for your patience,
Björn Snippe
Hannover, Germany

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Re: [LARTC] share 2Mbit between 90 users - what's sensible?

[Björn Snippe]

S Mohan schrieb:
> wondershaper has a set of rules for this. Why not borrow those rules and
> implement them?
> 
> Mohan

I know and will doubtless, shamelessly borrow them :) (Thanks, Bert!)
ESFQ and WRR (as suggested by Jason and Torge) both sound interesting, 
so I will stop now an try them :)
Thanks to you all,

Björn

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