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* [LARTC] Bandwidth control using Linux or other router
@ 2003-02-12 22:49 Ming-Ching Tiew
  2003-02-12 23:59 ` Martin A. Brown
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From: Ming-Ching Tiew @ 2003-02-12 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lartc


I have a requirement to be connected to a T1/E1
leased line WAN. Because of QoS issues, I am
considering these options :-

1. Purchase a router which has some form of 
   bandwidth management - this would be 
   expensive, rite ?

2. Purchase a low end router with 1 lan 1 wan,
   and connects a dual LAN linux before it.

   Will this additional hop slow down anything?

3. Purchase a supported T1/E1 interface cards
   and plug it into the Linux box.
   
   This could be a problem for me because of
   support issues. What if it does not properly?
   What if there are problems with the card
   or the drivers ?

Any recommendation?

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* Re: [LARTC] Bandwidth control using Linux or other router
  2003-02-12 22:49 [LARTC] Bandwidth control using Linux or other router Ming-Ching Tiew
@ 2003-02-12 23:59 ` Martin A. Brown
  2003-02-13  1:40 ` mingching.tiew
  2003-02-13  4:42 ` Martin A. Brown
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Martin A. Brown @ 2003-02-12 23:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lartc

Hello all,

 : 1. Purchase a router which has some form of bandwidth management - this
 :    would be expensive, rite ?

You have to decide what is expensive for you.  Time, money, expertise,
control, or not having a software/networking vendor to vilify.

 : 2. Purchase a low end router with 1 lan 1 wan, and connects a dual LAN
 :    linux before it.  Will this additional hop slow down anything?

Yes.  But maybe not significantly enough to be a problem...depends on your
pipe and usage on that pipe.  Remember, it's ideal to perform traffic
control on the bottleneck itself.  Regardless, I'd suggest option 3 or
option 1, depending on your answer to your own question in 1.

 : 3. Purchase a supported T1/E1 interface cards and plug it into the
 :    Linux box.

I recommend the Sangoma WAN cards.  I've been using them for at least 3
years under linux, and they are well supported by Sangoma and the linux
community (you'll see the driver in the distribution).

  http://www.sangoma.com/

I've had exactly one problem with the wanpipe/wanrouter software, and it
had already been identified and fixed by the time I had filed the bug
report with Sangoma.

 :    This could be a problem for me because of support issues. What if it
 :    does not properly? What if there are problems with the card or the
 :    drivers ?

You won't have problems with support for Sangoma's cards in the kernel nor
technical support from Sangoma.

-Martin

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* Re: [LARTC] Bandwidth control using Linux or other router
  2003-02-12 22:49 [LARTC] Bandwidth control using Linux or other router Ming-Ching Tiew
  2003-02-12 23:59 ` Martin A. Brown
@ 2003-02-13  1:40 ` mingching.tiew
  2003-02-13  4:42 ` Martin A. Brown
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: mingching.tiew @ 2003-02-13  1:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lartc

I am surprised because I am quite inclined towards option 2. Haha.

Regarding Sangoma solution, what Linux kernel version they are
supported on ? I would need 2.4.20 or there about.

Rgds.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin A. Brown" <mabrown-lartc@securepipe.com>
To: "Ming-Ching Tiew" <mctiew@yahoo.com>
Cc: <lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: [LARTC] Bandwidth control using Linux or other router


> Hello all,
>
>  : 1. Purchase a router which has some form of bandwidth management - this
>  :    would be expensive, rite ?
>
> You have to decide what is expensive for you.  Time, money, expertise,
> control, or not having a software/networking vendor to vilify.
>
>  : 2. Purchase a low end router with 1 lan 1 wan, and connects a dual LAN
>  :    linux before it.  Will this additional hop slow down anything?
>
> Yes.  But maybe not significantly enough to be a problem...depends on your
> pipe and usage on that pipe.  Remember, it's ideal to perform traffic
> control on the bottleneck itself.  Regardless, I'd suggest option 3 or
> option 1, depending on your answer to your own question in 1.
>
>  : 3. Purchase a supported T1/E1 interface cards and plug it into the
>  :    Linux box.
>
> I recommend the Sangoma WAN cards.  I've been using them for at least 3
> years under linux, and they are well supported by Sangoma and the linux
> community (you'll see the driver in the distribution).
>
>   http://www.sangoma.com/
>
> I've had exactly one problem with the wanpipe/wanrouter software, and it
> had already been identified and fixed by the time I had filed the bug
> report with Sangoma.
>
>  :    This could be a problem for me because of support issues. What if it
>  :    does not properly? What if there are problems with the card or the
>  :    drivers ?
>
> You won't have problems with support for Sangoma's cards in the kernel nor
> technical support from Sangoma.
>



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* Re: [LARTC] Bandwidth control using Linux or other router
  2003-02-12 22:49 [LARTC] Bandwidth control using Linux or other router Ming-Ching Tiew
  2003-02-12 23:59 ` Martin A. Brown
  2003-02-13  1:40 ` mingching.tiew
@ 2003-02-13  4:42 ` Martin A. Brown
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Martin A. Brown @ 2003-02-13  4:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lartc

Hello there again,

 : > I recommend the Sangoma WAN cards.  I've been using them for at least 3
 : > years under linux, and they are well supported by Sangoma and the linux
 : > community (you'll see the driver in the distribution).
 :
 : Regarding Sangoma solution, what Linux kernel version they are
 : supported on ? I would need 2.4.20 or there about.

Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I could have been.  Support for their cards
has been a part of the linux kernel distribution for quite some time.

$ find linux-2.4.20/ -type f -name wan\* -print
linux-2.4.20/include/linux/wanrouter.h
linux-2.4.20/include/linux/wanpipe.h
linux-2.4.20/include/linux/modules/wanmain.stamp
linux-2.4.20/include/linux/modules/wanmain.ver
linux-2.4.20/include/config/wan.h
linux-2.4.20/net/wanrouter/wanmain.c
linux-2.4.20/net/wanrouter/wanproc.c
linux-2.4.20/net/wanrouter/wanproc.o
linux-2.4.20/net/wanrouter/wanmain.o
linux-2.4.20/net/wanrouter/wanrouter.o
linux-2.4.20/drivers/net/wan/wanpipe_multppp.c
linux-2.4.20/drivers/net/wan/wan.o
linux-2.4.20/drivers/net/wan/wanpipe_multppp.o
linux-2.4.20/drivers/net/wan/wanpipe.o
linux-2.4.20/Documentation/networking/wan-router.txt
linux-2.4.20/Documentation/networking/wanpipe.txt
linux-2.4.20/Documentation/DocBook/wanbook.tmpl

Tschüs,

-Martin

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