[LARTC] The Wonder Shaper problem

[LARTC] The Wonder Shaper problem

[Rudi Hansen]

Hi, i don't know if anyone can help me.

I Have and Linux RedHat 9.0 machine, where i have installed the wondershaper
script to limit my inbound internet speed.
And on the Linux it works fine, but then i have an Windows machine that uses
the linux machine to get to the internet.
And this on this machine the script does not seam to have any impact.

I'm trying to limit my upload speed.

If i upload a file from the linux machine my max speed is 9Kbit, but on the
windows its 40Kbit.

Can anyone help??

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Re: [LARTC] The Wonder Shaper problem

[bert hubert]

On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 03:23:10PM +0200, Rudi Hansen wrote:

> I Have and Linux RedHat 9.0 machine, where i have installed the wondershaper
> script to limit my inbound internet speed.

Your message does not entirely make sense. Here you are talking about
inbound.

> If i upload a file from the linux machine my max speed is 9Kbit, but on the
> windows its 40Kbit.

This is about outbound. So I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Make sure
you run the wondershaper on the correct interface though.

Good luck.

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Re: [LARTC] The Wonder Shaper problem

[Rudi Hansen]

> Your message does not entirely make sense. Here you are talking about
> inbound.

Ok let's se if I can explain it properly.



I have a small home network with an ADSL router fore my internet connection,
and some computers all connected to the ADSL Router through a switch.



Now my problem is that I would like to be able to restrict the internet
bandwidth on some of my machines.



Now I have used The Wonder Shaper script to restrict the bandwidth on my
Linux machine, and it works on that machine.



But now my problem is if I setup one of my Windows machines to use the Linux
machine as gateway, but I can still access the internet with full bandwidth
from that machine.



Now what am I doing wrong?

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RE: [LARTC] The Wonder Shaper problem

[Vik Heyndrickx]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl [mailto:lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl]On
> Behalf Of Rudi Hansen
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 5:27 PM
> To: lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl
> Cc: bert hubert
> Subject: Re: [LARTC] The Wonder Shaper problem
> 
> 
> > Your message does not entirely make sense. Here you are talking about
> > inbound.
> 
> Ok let's se if I can explain it properly.
> 
> I have a small home network with an ADSL router fore my internet connection,
> and some computers all connected to the ADSL Router through a switch.
> 
> Now my problem is that I would like to be able to restrict the internet
> bandwidth on some of my machines.
> 
> Now I have used The Wonder Shaper script to restrict the bandwidth on my
> Linux machine, and it works on that machine.
> 
> But now my problem is if I setup one of my Windows machines to use the Linux
> machine as gateway, but I can still access the internet with full bandwidth
> from that machine.
> 
> Now what am I doing wrong?

If I understand the topology of your network correctly, all packets coming 
from the Internet through your ADSL router come back in onto your network 
and travel directly to the Windows machines without passing the linux router.
That's why they are not shaped.

One solution would be to put your linux router in between the ADSL router and 
your client network. You'll need to add a network card to you linux router, 
modify routing on the ADSL router to reach your client network, and point the 
default gateway on the linux router to the ADSL router.

In that case you are no longer using the ADSL router as a network address
translating router but simply as an ADSL modem.

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Vik

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Re: [LARTC] The Wonder Shaper problem

[Rudi Hansen]

> > I have a small home network with an ADSL router fore my internet
connection,
> > and some computers all connected to the ADSL Router through a switch.
> One solution would be to put your linux router in between the ADSL router
and
> your client network. You'll need to add a network card to you linux
router,
> modify routing on the ADSL router to reach your client network, and point
the
> default gateway on the linux router to the ADSL router.
>
> In that case you are no longer using the ADSL router as a network address
> translating router but simply as an ADSL modem.

Is that really the only way it can be done?
I would really like to be able to do this without putting the Linux machine
between the network and my ADSL Router.

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Re: [LARTC] The Wonder Shaper problem

[Damion de Soto]

Rudi Hansen wrote:

> Is that really the only way it can be done?
> I would really like to be able to do this without putting the Linux machine
> between the network and my ADSL Router.
> 
For the linux box to do the shaping, all the traffic must go in to, and out of its 
interfaces.
There's a small chance you might be able to get away with using a single network card 
and aliased interfaces in the linux machine, but this would make traffic shaping much 
more difficult than it needs to be (and probably slower too).


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Re: [LARTC] The Wonder Shaper problem

[bert hubert]

On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 05:26:53PM +0200, Rudi Hansen wrote:
> > Your message does not entirely make sense. Here you are talking about
> > inbound.
> 
> Ok let's se if I can explain it properly.
> 
> 
> 
> I have a small home network with an ADSL router fore my internet connection,
> and some computers all connected to the ADSL Router through a switch.
> 
> 
> 
> Now my problem is that I would like to be able to restrict the internet
> bandwidth on some of my machines.
> 
> 
> 
> Now I have used The Wonder Shaper script to restrict the bandwidth on my
> Linux machine, and it works on that machine.
> 
> 
> 
> But now my problem is if I setup one of my Windows machines to use the Linux
> machine as gateway, but I can still access the internet with full bandwidth
> from that machine.

Ah, I get it. You need to disable icmp redirects, your linux box is sending
the windows machine directly to the adsl router! 

Check out /proc/sys/net something or order.

Good luck!

> 
> 
> 
> Now what am I doing wrong?

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