* [LARTC] iptables question
@ 2003-10-23 3:45 Walter D. Wyndroski
2003-10-23 14:50 ` Walter D. Wyndroski
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From: Walter D. Wyndroski @ 2003-10-23 3:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lartc
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First off, I know this is the LARTC list, but I've been living on this list for over a year now. :) Now with that said, I'm probably going to get flamed for my question. :)
I've read that iptables is a first match wins system. My recent experience is showing that it is a last match wins. I understand that if a packet is matched in prerouting chain, it may be matched again in a subsequent chain unless the jump target was drop.
NOTE: I am not using iptables as a true firewall, much as most people on this list do not. I'm primarily using iptables to mark packets and drop them for securing my network and to deny all traffic to my router except for a few exclusive port.s
The following is an excerpt from my router script on how I'm handling certain traffic to my router and this works: (This example is a last match wins)
#Deny All Traffic to Interface except SSH and ICMP
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p icmp -j ACCEPT #CMTS Link
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p ! tcp -j DROP #CMTS Link
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p tcp --dport ! 22 -j DROP #CMTS Link
##Allow SNMP Calls Via MRTG To This Interface Only
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth3 -t mangle --src 66.28.168.226 --dst 172.20.0.5 -p udp --dport 161 -j ACCEPT
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth3 -t mangle --src 66.28.168.226 --dst 172.20.0.5 -p udp --dport 162 -j ACCEPT
This is how I was doing it and it worked: (This example is a first match wins)
(note: I was routing the fwmark 1 to blackhole)
##Allow SNMP Calls Via MRTG To This Interface Only
$IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -i eth3 -t mangle --src 66.28.168.226 --dst 172.20.0.5 -p udp --dport 161 -j ACCEPT
$IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -i eth3 -t mangle --src 66.28.168.226 --dst 172.20.0.5 -p udp --dport 162 -j ACCEPT
#Deny All Traffic to Interface except SSH and ICMP
$IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p icmp -j ACCEPT #CMTS Link
$IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p ! tcp -j MARK --set-mark 1 #CMTS Link
$IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p tcp --dport ! 22 -j MARK --set-mark 1 #CMTS Link
I just need someone to tell me when is iptables using first match wins versus last match wins. I think I am missing something but I am not sure. I stay so busy with other tasks that I cannot devote the time that I need and would like to this. Anyway, many thanks in advance.
Walt Wyndroski
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* Re: [LARTC] iptables question
2003-10-23 3:45 [LARTC] iptables question Walter D. Wyndroski
@ 2003-10-23 14:50 ` Walter D. Wyndroski
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From: Walter D. Wyndroski @ 2003-10-23 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lartc
Yes I see that. But what I am concerned with is the two snmp rules that
follow those. If I put the snmp rules ahead, they don't match. If I put them
after, then they do match. I pasted the rules again to make it easier to
see.
#Deny All Traffic to Interface except SSH and ICMP
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p icmp -j ACCEPT
#CMTS Link
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p ! tcp -j DROP
#CMTS Link
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p tcp --dport !
22 -j DROP #CMTS Link
##Allow SNMP Calls Via MRTG To This Interface Only
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth3 -t mangle --src 66.28.168.226 --dst
172.20.0.5 -p udp --dport 161 -j ACCEPT
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth3 -t mangle --src 66.28.168.226 --dst
172.20.0.5 -p udp --dport 162 -j ACCEPT
Walt Wyndroski
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kurjata" <rkurjata@ire.pw.edu.pl>
To: "Walter D. Wyndroski" <wdwrn@friendlycity.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: [LARTC] iptables question
> Witaj Walter,
>
> W Twoim liœcie datowanym 23 paŸdziernika 2003 (05:45:01) mo¿na przeczytaæ:
>
> WDW> First off, I know this is the LARTC list, but I've
> WDW> been living on this list for over a year now. :) Now with that said,
I'm
> WDW> probably going to get flamed for my question. :)
>
> No flames, but direct answer :)
>
> WDW>
>
> WDW> I've read that iptables is a first match wins
> WDW> system. My recent experience is showing that it is a last match wins.
I
> WDW> understand that if a packet is matched in prerouting chain, it may be
matched
> WDW> again in a subsequent chain unless the jump target was drop.
>
> I think you should consider it like First Matched Wins :) so It's
> working fine. I don't see why you're saying that first example is last
> match wins. It just depends on packet:
>
> (lets see the example where only first three lines are in the script)
>
> icmp - first matched and accepted
> not tcp - (udp) - matched and droped
> tcp dst port other than 22 - matched and dropped
>
> tcp dst port 22 matched by default chain policy (dropped or accepted)
>
>
>
>
> WDW>
> WDW> NOTE: I am not using iptables as a true firewall,
> WDW> much as most people on this list do not. I'm primarily using iptables
to mark
> WDW> packets and drop them for securing my network and to deny all traffic
to my
> WDW> router except for a few exclusive port.s
> WDW> The following is an excerpt from my router script
> WDW> on how I'm handling certain traffic to my router and this works:
(This example
> WDW> is a last match wins)
> WDW> #Deny All Traffic to Interface except SSH and ICMP
> WDW> $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p icmp -j
> WDW> ACCEPT
> WDW> #CMTS Link
> WDW> $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p ! tcp -j
> WDW> DROP
> WDW> #CMTS Link
> WDW> $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p
tcp --dport ! 22
> WDW> -j DROP #CMTS Link
> WDW> ##Allow SNMP Calls Via MRTG To This Interface Only
> WDW> $IPTABLES -A FORWARD
> WDW> -i eth3 -t mangle --src 66.28.168.226 --dst 172.20.0.5 -p udp --dport
161 -j
> WDW> ACCEPT
> WDW> $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i eth3 -t mangle --src 66.28.168.226 --dst
> WDW> 172.20.0.5 -p udp --dport 162 -j ACCEPT
> WDW> This is how I was doing it and it worked: (This example is a first
> WDW> match wins)
> WDW> (note: I was routing the fwmark 1 to blackhole)
> WDW> ##Allow SNMP Calls Via MRTG To This Interface Only
> WDW> $IPTABLES -A
> WDW> PREROUTING -i eth3 -t mangle --src 66.28.168.226 --dst 172.20.0.5 -p
udp --dport
> WDW> 161 -j ACCEPT
> WDW> $IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -i eth3 -t mangle --src 66.28.168.226
> WDW> --dst 172.20.0.5 -p udp --dport 162 -j ACCEPT
> WDW> #Deny All Traffic to Interface except SSH and ICMP
> WDW> $IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p icmp -j
> WDW> ACCEPT
> WDW> #CMTS Link
> WDW> $IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p ! tcp
> WDW> -j MARK --set-mark
> WDW> 1
> WDW> #CMTS Link
> WDW> $IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -i eth+ -t mangle --dst 172.20.0.5 -p
tcp --dport !
> WDW> 22 -j MARK --set-mark 1 #CMTS Link
>
> WDW>
>
> WDW> I just need someone to tell me when is iptables using first match
wins
> WDW> versus last match wins. I think I am missing something but I am not
sure. I stay
> WDW> so busy with other tasks that I cannot devote the time that I need
and would
> WDW> like to this. Anyway, many thanks in advance.
>
> WDW>
>
> WDW>
>
> WDW> Walt Wyndroski
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Robert mailto:rkurjata@ire.pw.edu.pl
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