From: Oliver Neukum <Oliver.Neukum@lrz.uni-muenchen.de>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Adding PCMCIA support to the kernel tree -- developers needed.
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 15:54:55 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-hotplug-98147507513324@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-hotplug-98118528107653@msgid-missing>
On Dienstag, 6. Februar 2001 16:35, David Woodhouse wrote:
> Oliver.Neukum@lrz.uni-muenchen.de said:
> > You'd loose the defined order of events. The result wouldn't even be
> > deterministic.
>
> There is no defined order of events in the current scheme. Do not make the
> mistake of thinking that there is, just because it happens to look that way
> most of the time.
That is unfortunately true. And it _is_ a bug.
The original design had definite order. That was not a nice addition, it was
a necessity. You cannot get stable behaviour unless you guarantee that the
scripts don't race with each other.
The approach with a user space demon solves a part of this problem, but not
all parts.
User space needs to acknowledge that it is finished dealing with one event
_before_ the next event is pumped to user space _and_ before the device
the event refers to is accessable from user space. That's the only way to
get security if device nodes can be reused.
Regards
Oliver
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2001-02-03 7:28 Adding PCMCIA support to the kernel tree -- developers needed Miles Lane
2001-02-03 10:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-03 19:27 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-03 23:59 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-04 0:00 ` David Hinds
2001-02-04 0:05 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-04 1:19 ` David Brownell
2001-02-04 1:58 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-04 3:26 ` Keith Owens
2001-02-04 5:59 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-04 8:56 ` David Hinds
2001-02-04 9:55 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-04 10:00 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-04 10:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-04 10:53 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-04 11:37 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-04 17:34 ` David Hinds
2001-02-04 18:02 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-04 18:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-04 18:54 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-05 1:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-05 1:56 ` David Brownell
2001-02-05 2:43 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-05 8:42 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-05 10:01 ` Keith Owens
2001-02-05 10:13 ` Keith Owens
2001-02-05 23:43 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-05 23:45 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-05 23:59 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-06 0:27 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-06 1:10 ` David Brownell
2001-02-06 1:40 ` David Brownell
2001-02-06 6:55 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-06 7:11 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-06 7:58 ` David Hinds
2001-02-06 8:02 ` David Hinds
2001-02-06 8:13 ` David Hinds
2001-02-06 9:51 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-06 13:46 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-06 15:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-06 15:20 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-06 15:33 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-06 15:35 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-06 15:54 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2001-02-06 16:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-06 18:56 ` David Brownell
2001-02-06 19:22 ` David Brownell
2001-02-06 19:31 ` David Brownell
2001-02-06 22:09 ` Adam J. Richter
2001-02-06 22:10 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-06 22:50 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-06 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-06 23:12 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-06 23:14 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-06 23:20 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-06 23:30 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-06 23:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-06 23:36 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-07 1:33 ` David Brownell
2001-02-07 2:11 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-07 2:38 ` Adam J. Richter
2001-02-07 9:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 9:09 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-07 9:10 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-07 9:35 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 9:37 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-07 9:57 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 10:11 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-07 10:27 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-07 10:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 10:30 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-07 14:45 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 15:19 ` Adam J. Richter
2001-02-07 16:11 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 17:37 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-07 17:48 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-07 18:24 ` David Brownell
2001-02-07 18:42 ` David Brownell
2001-02-07 18:47 ` David Brownell
2001-02-07 18:47 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 19:00 ` David Brownell
2001-02-07 19:29 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-07 19:59 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-07 21:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 21:14 ` David Brownell
2001-02-07 22:43 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-08 7:22 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-08 9:29 ` Adam J. Richter
2001-02-08 10:24 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-08 12:47 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-08 13:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-08 13:49 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-08 14:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-08 15:00 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-08 15:10 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-08 15:13 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-09 7:42 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-09 11:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-09 12:45 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-09 13:09 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-09 14:15 ` David Brownell
2001-02-09 15:45 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-26 17:47 ` David Brownell
2001-02-26 21:45 ` Chris Brand
2001-02-27 7:56 ` David Hinds
2001-02-28 16:56 ` David Brownell
2001-02-28 17:32 ` David Hinds
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2001-02-03 7:28 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-03 10:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-04 0:00 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-05 1:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-05 2:43 ` Miles Lane
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