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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Adding PCMCIA support to the kernel tree -- developers needed.
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:00:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-hotplug-98157399618583@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-hotplug-98118528107653@msgid-missing>

Oliver,

> You need to prevent any changes to the bus while you do the scanning.
> Running hotplug support is not enough. You need further kernel support
> to do racefree scanning. It gets worse if you take into account interference
> with non hotpluggable busses (SCSI).

Since I think the device naming needs work (PCI/USB/... bus level,
then levels above like "eth0", /dev/lp0, and so on) I'll just say that the
interference issues should be globally removed by providing and using
stable names (in the right ways :-).


> Therefore I suggest scanning in kernel space.

That gets interesting.  How would a usermode program request that,
say, the PCI or USB devices now present all get "hotplug" events?
I agree that it's likely easier to solve the locking issues "well" there,
but wonder how those dots would get connected.

- Dave




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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-02-07 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-03  7:28 Adding PCMCIA support to the kernel tree -- developers needed Miles Lane
2001-02-03 10:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-03 19:27 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-03 23:59 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-04  0:00 ` David Hinds
2001-02-04  0:05 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-04  1:19 ` David Brownell
2001-02-04  1:58 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-04  3:26 ` Keith Owens
2001-02-04  5:59 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-04  8:56 ` David Hinds
2001-02-04  9:55 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-04 10:00 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-04 10:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-04 10:53 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-04 11:37 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-04 17:34 ` David Hinds
2001-02-04 18:02 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-04 18:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-04 18:54 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-05  1:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-05  1:56 ` David Brownell
2001-02-05  2:43 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-05  8:42 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-05 10:01 ` Keith Owens
2001-02-05 10:13 ` Keith Owens
2001-02-05 23:43 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-05 23:45 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-05 23:59 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-06  0:27 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-06  1:10 ` David Brownell
2001-02-06  1:40 ` David Brownell
2001-02-06  6:55 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-06  7:11 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-06  7:58 ` David Hinds
2001-02-06  8:02 ` David Hinds
2001-02-06  8:13 ` David Hinds
2001-02-06  9:51 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-06 13:46 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-06 15:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-06 15:20 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-06 15:33 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-06 15:35 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-06 15:54 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-06 16:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-06 18:56 ` David Brownell
2001-02-06 19:22 ` David Brownell
2001-02-06 19:31 ` David Brownell
2001-02-06 22:09 ` Adam J. Richter
2001-02-06 22:10 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-06 22:50 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-06 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-06 23:12 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-06 23:14 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-06 23:20 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-06 23:30 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-06 23:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-06 23:36 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-07  1:33 ` David Brownell
2001-02-07  2:11 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-07  2:38 ` Adam J. Richter
2001-02-07  9:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07  9:09 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-07  9:10 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-07  9:35 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07  9:37 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-07  9:57 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 10:11 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-07 10:27 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-07 10:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 10:30 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-07 14:45 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 15:19 ` Adam J. Richter
2001-02-07 16:11 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 17:37 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-07 17:48 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-07 18:24 ` David Brownell
2001-02-07 18:42 ` David Brownell
2001-02-07 18:47 ` David Brownell
2001-02-07 18:47 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 19:00 ` David Brownell [this message]
2001-02-07 19:29 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-07 19:59 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-07 21:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-07 21:14 ` David Brownell
2001-02-07 22:43 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-08  7:22 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-08  9:29 ` Adam J. Richter
2001-02-08 10:24 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-08 12:47 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-08 13:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-08 13:49 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-08 14:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-08 15:00 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-08 15:10 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-08 15:13 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-09  7:42 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-09 11:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-09 12:45 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-09 13:09 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-02-09 14:15 ` David Brownell
2001-02-09 15:45 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-26 17:47 ` David Brownell
2001-02-26 21:45 ` Chris Brand
2001-02-27  7:56 ` David Hinds
2001-02-28 16:56 ` David Brownell
2001-02-28 17:32 ` David Hinds
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2001-02-03  7:28         ` Miles Lane
2001-02-03 10:07           ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-04  0:00             ` Miles Lane
2001-02-05  1:14               ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-05  2:43                 ` Miles Lane

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