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From: David Mosberger <davidm@napali.hpl.hp.com>
To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-ia64] reader-writer livelock problem
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 19:26:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-ia64-105590709805374@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-ia64-105590709805355@msgid-missing>

>>>>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:19:07 +0000, Matthew Wilcox <willy@debian.org> said:

  Matthew> On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 12:05:30PM -0600, Van Maren, Kevin
  Matthew> wrote:
  >> Absolutely you should minimize the locking contention.  However,
  >> that isn't always possible, such as when you have 64 processors
  >> contending on the same resource.

  Matthew> if you've got 64 processors contending on the same
  Matthew> resource, maybe you need to split that resource up so they
  Matthew> can have a copy each.  all that cacheline bouncing can't do
  Matthew> your numa boxes any good.

Matthew, please understand that this is NOT a performance problem.
It's a correctness problem.  If livelock can resolut from read-write locks,
it's a huge security problem.  Period.

	--david


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-11-08 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-08  3:23 [Linux-ia64] reader-writer livelock problem Van Maren, Kevin
2002-11-08 17:13 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2002-11-08 17:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-08 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-08 17:34 ` David Howells
2002-11-08 17:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2002-11-08 17:41 ` Van Maren, Kevin
2002-11-08 17:43 ` David Howells
2002-11-08 17:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-11-08 17:54 ` David Howells
2002-11-08 17:55 ` Stephen Hemminger
2002-11-08 18:05 ` Van Maren, Kevin
2002-11-08 19:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-11-08 19:26 ` David Mosberger [this message]
2002-11-08 20:17 ` Van Maren, Kevin
2002-11-08 20:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-11-09  2:48 ` Rusty Russell
2002-11-11 16:29 ` Mario Smarduch
2002-11-11 20:01 ` [Linux-ia64] reader-writer livelock proble Mario Smarduch
     [not found] <3FAD1088D4556046AEC48D80B47B478C0101F4E7@usslc-exch-4.slc.unisys.com>
2002-11-08  3:51 ` [Linux-ia64] reader-writer livelock problem William Lee Irwin III
2002-11-08 17:13   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2002-11-08 17:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-08 17:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-08 17:38       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2002-11-08 17:43         ` David Howells
2002-11-08 17:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-09  2:48         ` Rusty Russell
2002-11-09  4:36           ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-11-08 17:34     ` David Howells
2002-11-08 17:54       ` David Howells
2002-11-08 17:55       ` Stephen Hemminger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-08 17:41 Van Maren, Kevin
2002-11-08 17:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-11-08 18:05 Van Maren, Kevin
2002-11-08 19:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-11-08 19:26   ` David Mosberger
2002-11-08 20:17 Van Maren, Kevin
2002-11-08 20:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-11-08 20:24 Van Maren, Kevin

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