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* problems with dmesg
From: r4mz3z @ 2002-12-12  0:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-newbie

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Hi friends..
  I'm using RedHat 7.3 and when I try to run "dmesg" receive this message:

 no more MTRRs available
mtrr: no more MTRRs available
mtrr: no more MTRRs available
...
...

  thanks 4 your help

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my GnuPG-key at www.keyserver.net
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* Re: fetchmail and smtp problem
From: Haines Brown @ 2002-12-12  0:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ray; +Cc: linux-newbie
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20021211110250.020d8d90@celine>

> Haines -- It is hard to diagnose anything from this bounce, without
> information about what the original message looked like. A ways down
> in the bounce report is this information:

Unfortunately, I can't reproduce the error. I repeated what I had done
earlier, which I believe was to send a test message to a) my email
address, b) to an alias on another server that is redirected back to
myself, c) localhost.localdomain, d) localhost

None of these messages was received within a period of at least 15
minutes, even though they all had a BCC: back to myself.

I've no problem receiving messages from the mail server (despite the
inordinate delays), and so it appears that my outgoing mail is just
not getting there.

Haines 
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* Re: [PATCH] Notifier for significant events on i386
From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2002-12-12  0:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox; +Cc: John Levon, Linux Kernel Mailing List
In-Reply-To: <1039641336.18587.30.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>


On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 13:15, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 20:27, John Levon wrote:
> > There are notifiers being used that sleep inside the called notifiers.
> > 
> > You could easily make a __notifier_call_chain that is lockless and
> > another one that readlocks the notifier_lock ...
> 
> The notifier chains assume the users will do the locking needed for
> them. It might be possible to do cool things there with RCU

This patch changes notifier to use RCU.  No interface change, just a little
more memory in each notifier_block. Also some formatting cleanup.
Please review and give comments.

diff -Nru a/include/linux/notifier.h b/include/linux/notifier.h
--- a/include/linux/notifier.h	Wed Dec 11 15:46:05 2002
+++ b/include/linux/notifier.h	Wed Dec 11 15:46:05 2002
@@ -9,13 +9,19 @@
  
 #ifndef _LINUX_NOTIFIER_H
 #define _LINUX_NOTIFIER_H
+
 #include <linux/errno.h>
+#include <linux/rcupdate.h>
+#include <linux/completion.h>
 
 struct notifier_block
 {
 	int (*notifier_call)(struct notifier_block *self, unsigned long, void *);
 	struct notifier_block *next;
 	int priority;
+
+	struct rcu_head    rcu;
+	struct completion  complete;
 };
 
 
diff -Nru a/kernel/sys.c b/kernel/sys.c
--- a/kernel/sys.c	Wed Dec 11 15:46:05 2002
+++ b/kernel/sys.c	Wed Dec 11 15:46:05 2002
@@ -78,7 +78,7 @@
  */
 
 static struct notifier_block *reboot_notifier_list;
-rwlock_t notifier_lock = RW_LOCK_UNLOCKED;
+static spinlock_t notifier_lock = SPIN_LOCK_UNLOCKED;
 
 /**
  *	notifier_chain_register	- Add notifier to a notifier chain
@@ -89,46 +89,60 @@
  *
  *	Currently always returns zero.
  */
- 
 int notifier_chain_register(struct notifier_block **list, struct notifier_block *n)
 {
-	write_lock(&notifier_lock);
-	while(*list)
-	{
+	spin_lock(&notifier_lock);
+	while (*list) {
 		if(n->priority > (*list)->priority)
 			break;
 		list= &((*list)->next);
 	}
+
 	n->next = *list;
-	*list=n;
-	write_unlock(&notifier_lock);
+	*list = n;
+	wmb();
+
+	spin_unlock(&notifier_lock);
 	return 0;
 }
 
+static void notifier_unreg_complete(void *arg) {
+	struct notifier_block *n = arg;
+
+	n->next = NULL;
+	complete(&n->complete);
+}
+
 /**
  *	notifier_chain_unregister - Remove notifier from a notifier chain
- *	@nl: Pointer to root list pointer
+ *	@list: Pointer to root list pointer
  *	@n: New entry in notifier chain
  *
  *	Removes a notifier from a notifier chain.
  *
  *	Returns zero on success, or %-ENOENT on failure.
  */
- 
-int notifier_chain_unregister(struct notifier_block **nl, struct notifier_block *n)
+int notifier_chain_unregister(struct notifier_block **list, struct notifier_block *n)
 {
-	write_lock(&notifier_lock);
-	while((*nl)!=NULL)
-	{
-		if((*nl)==n)
-		{
-			*nl=n->next;
-			write_unlock(&notifier_lock);
+	spin_lock(&notifier_lock);
+	while(*list) {
+		if (*list == n) {
+			*list = n->next;
+			wmb();
+
+			init_completion(&n->complete);
+			call_rcu(&n->rcu, notifier_unreg_complete, n);
+			spin_unlock(&notifier_lock);
+
+			wait_for_completion(&n->complete);
+
 			return 0;
 		}
-		nl=&((*nl)->next);
+
+		list = &((*list)->next);
 	}
-	write_unlock(&notifier_lock);
+
+	spin_unlock(&notifier_lock);
 	return -ENOENT;
 }
 
@@ -147,21 +161,19 @@
  *	Otherwise, the return value is the return value
  *	of the last notifier function called.
  */
- 
 int notifier_call_chain(struct notifier_block **n, unsigned long val, void *v)
 {
-	int ret=NOTIFY_DONE;
+	int ret = NOTIFY_DONE;
 	struct notifier_block *nb = *n;
 
-	while(nb)
-	{
-		ret=nb->notifier_call(nb,val,v);
-		if(ret&NOTIFY_STOP_MASK)
-		{
+	while (nb) {
+		ret = nb->notifier_call(nb,val,v);
+		if (ret & NOTIFY_STOP_MASK) 
 			return ret;
-		}
-		nb=nb->next;
+		nb = nb->next;
+		read_barrier_depends();
 	}
+
 	return ret;
 }
 





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* Re: Memory Measurements and Lots of Files and Inodes
From: Patrick R. McManus @ 2002-12-12  0:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: linux-kernel
In-Reply-To: <3DF7D3BE.59F4B212@digeo.com>

[Andrew Morton: Dec 11 16:09]
> "Patrick R. McManus" wrote:
> > 
> > ...
> > Just sitting back and watching vmstat while this runs my 'free' memory
> > drops from ~600MB to about ~16MB.. the buffers and cache remain roughly
> > constant.. at 16MB some sort of garbage collection kicks in - there is
> > a notable system pause and ~70MB moves from the used to the 'free'
> > column... this process repeats more or less in a steady state.
> 
> Probably `negative dentries' - cached directory entries which say
> "this file isn't there" so we don't need to go into the fs to
> find that out.
> 
> If you could share your test apps that would help a lot.

sure! this is the "lots of files" program.

#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/stat.h>
#include <fcntl.h>

#define BSZ 2000
unsigned char buf[BSZ+256];

main ()
{
    int fd,i,j;
    unsigned int ctr=0;
    unsigned char r=0;
    char f1[32],f2[32],f3[32],f4[32];
    
    while (1)
    {
        sprintf (f1,"fxa_%06d",ctr++);  sprintf (f2,"fxa_%06d",ctr++);
        sprintf (f3,"fxa_%06d",ctr++);  sprintf (f4,"fxa_%06d",ctr++);

        fd = open (f1,O_CREAT | O_RDWR);
        memset (buf,r++,BSZ+256);  write (fd,buf,BSZ+r);    close (fd);
        
        fd = open (f2,O_CREAT | O_RDWR);
        memset (buf,r++,BSZ+256);   write (fd,buf,BSZ+r);    close (fd);
        
        fd = open (f3,O_CREAT | O_RDWR);
        memset (buf,r++,BSZ+256);   write (fd,buf,BSZ+r);     close (fd);
        
        fd = open (f4,O_CREAT | O_RDWR);
        memset (buf,r++,BSZ+256);  write (fd,buf,BSZ+r);      close (fd);
        
        unlink (f1);   unlink (f2);    unlink (f3);   unlink (f4);
        if (!r)
          fprintf (stdout,".");fflush (stdout);
    }
}

and this is the "gimme 300MB even though free sez I hardly have
anything" program:

#define BS (30*1024*1024)
main()
{
    char *x;
    x = malloc (BS);
    if (!x)
        printf ("heh - x is NULL\n");
    else
    {
        printf ("allocd\n");
        memset (x,0x31,BS);
        printf ("set\n");
        free (x);
        printf ("freed\n");
    }
}

> On your machine it'll be "all of swap plus all of physical memory
> minus whatever malloc'ed memory you're using now minus 8-12 megabytes".
> There isn't much memory which cannot be reclaimed unless you have a
> huge machine or you're doing odd things.

this is useful advice, thanks. Basically what the new procps does?

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* Re: "bio too big" error
From: Wil Reichert @ 2002-12-12  0:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Greg KH; +Cc: kernel list
In-Reply-To: <20021211234557.GF16615@kroah.com>

Ok, 2.5.51 plus dm patches result in the following:

Initializing LVM: device-mapper: device
/dev/ide/host2/bus1/target0/lun0/disc too small for target
device-mapper: internal error adding target to table
device-mapper: destroying table
  device-mapper ioctl cmd 2 failed: Invalid argument
  Couldn't load device 'cheese_vg-blah'.
  0 logical volume(s) in volume group "cheese_vg" now active
lvm2.

Was fine (minus of course the entire bio thing) in 50, did something
break in 51 or is it just my box?

Wil

> > > Did you try the dm patches that were just posted to lkml today?
> >
> > Just subscribed today, missed 'em.  You're refering to
> >
> >
>
http://people.sistina.com/~thornber/patches/2.5-stable/2.5.50/2.5.50-dm-2.tar.bz2
?
>
> Nope, try the ones at:
>        
http://people.sistina.com/~thornber/patches/2.5-stable/2.5.51/
> 
> thanks,
>
> greg k-h



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* Re: Strange load spikes on 2.4.19 kernel
From: Andrew Morton @ 2002-12-12  0:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steven Roussey; +Cc: robm, linux-kernel
In-Reply-To: <001d01c2a170$b72639e0$026fa8c0@wehohome>

Steven Roussey wrote:
>
> 500      32429  0.3  1.1 41948 9148 ?        R    15:19   0:06 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL

Looks like all your apache instances woke up and started doing something.
What makes you think it's a kernel or ext3 thing?

If there were processes there in `D' state then it would probably
be related to filesystem activity.  But that does not appear to
be the case.

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* Re: [PATCH] (1/2) i386 discontigmem support against 2.4.21pre1: paddr_to_pfn
From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2002-12-12  0:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Patricia Gaughen; +Cc: marcelo, linux-kernel
In-Reply-To: <200212112335.gBBNZpu04590@w-gaughen.beaverton.ibm.com>

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:35:51PM -0800, Patricia Gaughen wrote:
> It changes all references of node_start_paddr and zone_start_paddr 
> to node_start_pfn and zone_start_pfn.  This change is required to 
> support PAE for i386 discontigmem.  It allows a starting address 
> for a node or zone to be greater than 4GB. A version of this patch 
> is in the 2.4 aa tree and has also been accepted into the v2.5 tree 
> starting with 2.5.34.
> 
> I've tested this patch on the following configurations: UP, SMP, SMP PAE, 
> multiquad, multiquad PAE, multiquad DISCONTIGMEM, multiquad DISCONTIGMEM PAE.
> 
> Any and all feedback regarding this patch is greatly appreciated.

The patch looks cool.  If it was inline in the mail instead of beeing a
mime-attachment everyone could even see that easily 8)


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* Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Solved: Kernel crash when loggin in via ssh
From: Randolph Chung @ 2002-12-12  0:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: M. Grabert; +Cc: Carlos O'Donell, parisc-linux
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212112313290.861-100000@sal.ucc.ie>

> gcc-3.0_3.0.4-13 produces a working kernel, gcc-3.2-3.2.2-0pre0 produces
> a miscompiled kernel (faulty networking, causes kernel crash).

Just to reiterate Dave's point, this is not necessarily a compiler
problem. 

> I think it is no urban legend anymore ... :-/
> I've also see quite alot reports on p-l about miscompiled kernels with
> anything other than gcc-3.0.4, actually several months ago; so I thought
> these issues have been solved by now ...

you will also see several attempts from me to get more info about these
problems, since i have yet to reproduce this. No one has stepped forward
to provide the info to track this down...

please, follow the info at
http://www.parisc-linux.org/faq/kernelbug-howto.html to report where is
the crash, what is your config, etc.... just saying "it doesn't work"
will not help us fix it.

randolph
-- 
Randolph Chung
Debian GNU/Linux Developer, hppa/ia64 ports
http://www.tausq.org/

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* error in make-kpkg at linux-2.5.51
From: eric lin @ 2002-12-12  8:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: debian-user, linux-kernel

   gcc -Wp,-MD,drivers/ide/pci/.nvidia.o.d -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -Wall 
-Wstrict-
prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe 
-mpreferred
-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -Iarch/i386/mach-generic 
-fomit-frame-pointer -nos
tdinc -iwithprefix include  -Idrivers/ide  -DKBUILD_BASENAME=nvidia 
-DKBUILD_MOD
NAME=nvidia   -c -o drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.o drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c
In file included from drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c:29:
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.h:35: `PCI_DEVICE_ID_NVIDIA_NFORCE_IDE' 
undeclared here (
not in a function)
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.h:35: initializer element is not constant
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.h:35: (near initialization for 
`nvidia_chipsets[0].device
')
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.h:43: initializer element is not constant
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.h:43: (near initialization for 
`nvidia_chipsets[0].enable
bits[0]')
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.h:43: initializer element is not constant
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.h:43: (near initialization for 
`nvidia_chipsets[0].enable
bits[1]')
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.h:43: initializer element is not constant
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.h:43: (near initialization for 
`nvidia_chipsets[0].enable
bits')
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.h:46: initializer element is not constant
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.h:46: (near initialization for `nvidia_chipsets[0]')
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c: In function `nforce_ratemask':
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c:79: `PCI_DEVICE_ID_NVIDIA_NFORCE_IDE' 
undeclared (first
  use in this function)
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c:79: (Each undeclared identifier is reported 
only once
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c:79: for each function it appears in.)
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c:80: warning: unreachable code at beginning of 
switch st
atement
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c: In function `ata66_nforce':
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c:288: `PCI_DEVICE_ID_NVIDIA_NFORCE_IDE' 
undeclared (firs
t use in this function)
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c:289: warning: unreachable code at beginning of 
switch s
tatement
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c: At top level:
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c:343: `PCI_DEVICE_ID_NVIDIA_NFORCE_IDE' 
undeclared here
(not in a function)
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c:343: initializer element is not constant
drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.c:343: (near initialization for 
`nforce_pci_tbl[0].device
')
make[4]: *** [drivers/ide/pci/nvidia.o] Error 1
make[3]: *** [drivers/ide/pci] Error 2
make[2]: *** [drivers/ide] Error 2
make[1]: *** [drivers] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/fsshl/linux-2.5.51'
make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2
-- 
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale


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* Re: Memory Measurements and Lots of Files and Inodes
From: Andrew Morton @ 2002-12-12  0:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Patrick R. McManus; +Cc: linux-kernel
In-Reply-To: <20021211235258.GA10857@ducksong.com>

"Patrick R. McManus" wrote:
> 
> ...
> Just sitting back and watching vmstat while this runs my 'free' memory
> drops from ~600MB to about ~16MB.. the buffers and cache remain roughly
> constant.. at 16MB some sort of garbage collection kicks in - there is
> a notable system pause and ~70MB moves from the used to the 'free'
> column... this process repeats more or less in a steady state.

Probably `negative dentries' - cached directory entries which say
"this file isn't there" so we don't need to go into the fs to
find that out.

If you could share your test apps that would help a lot.
 
> If, while this is going on, I run another little app that does
> {x= malloc(300MB), memset (x,0,300MB), free (x)}.. suddenly I can move
> 300MB from the used to the 'free' state...

The slab cache (general kernel memory allocator+cache) has mechanisms
for freeing cached objects when memory gets tight.  That will recycle
all those negative dentries.  If that's what you're seeing.
 
> ...
> Can anybody provide a better metric for "ram free for userspace
> allocations"?

On your machine it'll be "all of swap plus all of physical memory
minus whatever malloc'ed memory you're using now minus 8-12 megabytes".
There isn't much memory which cannot be reclaimed unless you have a
huge machine or you're doing odd things.

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* Re: ELKS port of Adventure - help needed :)
From: Phil Goembel @ 2002-12-11 23:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Richard Wallman; +Cc: linux-8086
In-Reply-To: <200212112222.gBBMMA5G007271@eddie.loc>

On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 16:22, Richard Wallman wrote:
> On 11 Dec, Richard Wallman wrote:
> 
> > Possible a source code or bcc problem
> 
> It's a bcc problem: strcmp doesn't return the right values.
> 
Yes, I was thinking either a compiler problem or a 
runtime library problem.

I think on line 142 of libc/string/string.c:
> 
> sbb	ax,ax		; Collect correct val (-1,1).
> 
This is suspicious, as I would expect the result to be
either -1 or 0 (I'm not an 8086 assembly guru, though),
depending on the borrow bit.

The borrow bit should be unchanged (I'm assuming the 
8086 arithmetic instructions work like all other 2's 
complement processors I've worked with).

I don't, think after the sbb, that the status bits 
resulting from a compare would be preserved,
i.e. you would not be able to distinguish between a
value being less than, equal, or greater than another
value. The sbb would clobber the status, and just
give greater than or not greater than (borrow or not
borrow).

It's hard to say without seeing the code. If you want
to email me the assembly code, that would help.

> I'm not too hot on x86 assembly, but surely this command is subtracting
> the ax register from itself, using the status flags to show sign? Does
> the processor support a negative and positive zero value?
> 
> The next line (orb al,#1) then turns on bit 1. It is assuming that the
> scasb command has correctly set the right flag to indicate whether the
> comparison was negative or positive, and so give the sign.
> 
Sigh. Guess I'm going to have to set up the ELKS development
environment to help here. If the orb is the very next instruction,
after the sbb, it would change 0 to 1, but leave -1 unchanged.

Where does the scasb fit in?

> I think this is what's wrong - every time, I'm getting a -1 result from
> strcmp.
> 
> 
> 
> Paul: short answer = rewrite strcmp. Only "vocab.c" and "english.c" use
> that function, so just replace all references. sed is your friend. :)

This is a good idea. I'm surprised nobody's run into problems
with strcmp before this, though.

Is strcmp written in assembly, or are you looking at the code
generated by the compiler?

Sorry about asking such basic questions, but it's been a long
time since I've actually tried to set up the ELKS development
environment (and failed). So I don't have the source code
on hand. I've been lurking ever since, but I thought here was 
a simple problem I could help with. Heh!

Phil


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* Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Solved: Kernel crash when loggin in via ssh
From: M. Grabert @ 2002-12-11 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John David Anglin; +Cc: carlos, parisc-linux
In-Reply-To: <200212112340.gBBNeVPA021527@hiauly1.hia.nrc.ca>

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, John David Anglin wrote:

> > It IS a gcc issue.
>
> That is not sufficient proof.  Just because code "works" with one compiler
> version, doesn't mean that there isn't a problem with the code.  Someone
> actually has to produce a sample of miscompiled code.  The debian 3.0.4
> is not a supported version of gcc.

okay, fair enough. But for now I stick to gcc-3.0.4 ...

BTW, did anybody try to compile kernels with CVS gcc-3.3 ?
Otherwise I'll waste my time this weekend building a native compiler and
try to recompile the same kernel again with the CVS gcc main branch (3.3?)

greetings max

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* Slow SCSI AIC7xxx on 2.5.48
From: Shureih, Tariq @ 2002-12-12  0:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lmkl (linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org)

Has anyone noticed some serious degradation in performance using AIC7xxx
driver in 2.5.48?

I have a system with Intel's SL2 dual PIII Xeon 933 with on board scsi
adaptec.

When I load the 2.4.19 kernel, everything is fine.

Using 2.5.48, when I login it takes it sometimes up to 1 minute 34 seconds
to return me a prompt and good luck with "ps".
No errors or messages though.

I have not tried it with 2.5.51 to see if anything changed. 

Is this known?

*_*_*_*_*_*
Tariq Shureih
*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*
Opinions are my own and don't represent my employer



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* Re: Is this going to be true ?
From: Henning P. Schmiedehausen @ 2002-12-12  0:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.1021211111221.24200A-100000@chaos.analogic.com>

"Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> writes:

>> Why would that be good?  People would start using their programs and
>> blame Linux when they crash.

>Well, when the program crashes, you get to run it again under Linux
>and Unix operating systems. Not so with Windows. With Windows, you
>reinstall windows after first booting DOS from a floppy and using

Grow up and stop spreading FUD. I haven't had to reinstall a Windows
2000 server ever since it was released (not that there were many that
I ever used. But I actually did and deployed apps on them). 95, 98 and
ME maybe. NT4 almost never and W2K is a quite stable platform even
under load.

I'm amazed that the most violent Windows critique comes from people
that claim to "never have touched a M$ operating system in their whole
life".  But then again, same goes to the Linux critics... :-)

	Regards
		Henning

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* quattro record problems
From: iriXx @ 2002-12-11 23:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

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hi
sorry but i've lost track of the status of the quattro and recording
under alsa....
has the problem been fixed in cvs?
also i wondered if it existed in rc5 or rc6
thanks
m~

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* Re: Is this going to be true ?
From: Henning P. Schmiedehausen @ 2002-12-11 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
In-Reply-To: <yw1xbs3smtx0.fsf@gladiusit.e.kth.se>

mru@users.sourceforge.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?M=E5ns_Rullg=E5rd?=) writes:

>> Competition is always good. It inpires people to do better.

>Doing better than MS isn't much of an inspiration to me.

There are no similar applications like the Exchange Server or the
BizTalk server for Linux. I'd see them port all of the server portions
of these applications to an *ix platform (be it MacOS X, *BSD or
Linux) in quite short time. The management GUIs and application
development tools will stay on Windows, however.

Basically the same thing, many other server platform vendors (Oracle,
InterSystems Cache are the ones I spontanously remember) do. You get 1
(one) Linux Server in the company running the server and be able to
keep 100 (one hundred) % of the desktops on Windows. Sounds like a
good deal for M$ to me.

	Regards
		Henning

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* RE: Strange load spikes on 2.4.19 kernel
From: Steven Roussey @ 2002-12-11 23:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: akpm; +Cc: robm, linux-kernel
In-Reply-To: <3DF7C5B2.D9E0249C@digeo.com>

Thanks for looking at this.

> Tried mounting all filesystems `-o noatime'?

Did that a while back.

> Is there much disk write activity?  

No:
# iostat -k
Linux 2.4.18-18.7.xsmp (morpheus.network54.com)         12/11/2002

avg-cpu:  %user   %nice    %sys   %idle
          43.70    0.00   14.87   41.43

Device:            tps    kB_read/s    kB_wrtn/s    kB_read    kB_wrtn
dev3-0            6.36        36.76        28.33    2588238    1994376

>What journalling mode are you using?

I remember just using the default. How can I tell?

# mount
/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/hda3 on /usr type ext3 (rw,noatime)

> The output of `ps aux' during a stall would be interesting,
> as would the `vmstat 1' ouptut.

If it helps, I recompiled Apache to have a higher limit on the number of
child servers that it can have running. I don't know why it was 256 (I
changed it to 512), unless the kernel has issues with lots of processes. But
what is 'lots'?

It is really odd. The idle % goes way up and then drops to nothing while
cpu(r) goes way high relative to normal.

This is from a mid-afternoon spike (load from 3 to 48):

#vmstat 1
...
   procs                      memory    swap          io     system
cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy
id
 6  0  0   7444  87024  13980 158236   0   0     0    16 3491  2510  19  18
63
 0  0  0   7444  80104  13876 158340   0   0     0     0 2224  1538  12   7
81
 1  0  0   7444  72860  13808 158408   0   0     0     0 2912  1759  16  11
73
 0  0  0   7444  67388  13768 158448   0   0     0     0 2025  1348  10   6
84
 0  0  0   7444  64156  13756 158460   0   0     0     0 1823  1142   8   6
86
 0  0  0   7444  62908  13756 158460   0   0     0     0 1444   515   6   6
87
 1  0  0   7444  62904  13744 158472   0   0     0     0 1073    75   1   1
98
 0  0  0   7444  62904  13672 158544   0   0     0     0  880    49   0   1
98
 0  0  0   7444  61788  13668 158548   0   0     0     0 1450   452   6   3
91
 3  0  1   7444  58904  13660 158556   0   0     0     0 3104  1386  14   8
78
 0  0  0   7444  58252  13656 158568   0   0     0    16 1481   628   6   7
87
 0  0  0   7444  54584  13648 158576   0   0     0     0 3188  2287  17   6
77
350  0  2   7444  50044  13652 158580   0   0    12     0 8759  3995  50  18
31
293 27  2   7444  41456  13644 158588   0   0     4     0 8576  3644  78  22
0
297  0  2   7444  38076  13640 158600   0   0     4    16 13163  6299  77
23   0
289  0  2   7444  36600  13616 158624   0   0     4     0 9035  4545  73  26
0
255  0  2   7444  36740  13624 158632   0   0    16     0 9827  4974  75  25
0
289  0  2   7444  36456  13604 158676   0   0    28     0 10030  4619  77
22   0
292  0  2   7444  35036  13596 158684   0   0     4     0 9064  4434  75  25
0
236  0  2   7444  32576  13656 158688   0   0    60    32 14771  7496  79
21   0
151  0  2   7444  32384  13652 158692   0   0     0     0 8670  5028  69  31
0
   procs                      memory    swap          io     system
cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy
id
125  0  2   7444  31272  13652 158700   0   0     8     0 8825  4676  79  21
0
98  0  2   7444  30340  13648 158712   0   0    12     0 9248  5197  77  23
0
25  0  0   7444  32928  13664 158724   0   0     0   132 8649  4629  70  28
2
58  0  2   7444  32960  13672 158744   0   0    28    60 8016  4156  62  18
19
13  0  1   7444  34020  13668 158756   0   0     8     0 8759  4982  73  27
0
 1  0  0   7444  33696  13668 158776   0   0    20     0 8252  5977  65  18
17
 5  0  0   7444  34952  13668 158776   0   0     0     0 7625  5618  50  17
33
 4  0  0   7444  34752  13644 158800   0   0     0     0 8869  5982  70  20
10
 5  0  0   7444  39588  13656 158856   0   0    68     0 7054  5321  46  17
37
 1  0  0   7444  40472  13640 158872   0   0     0     0 6915  5282  50  20
30
 4  0  1   7444  41892  13640 158872   0   0     0     0 6286  4728  39  14
47
22  0  1   7444  41936  13612 158920   0   0    20     0 6323  4507  44  17
39
 5  0  0   7444  43292  13612 158936   0   0    12    16 7257  5086  53  18
28
 6  0  2   7444  44532  13604 158976   0   0    36     0 7306  5384  53  21
25
 3  0  0   7444  43952  13596 158988   0   0     4     0 7759  5077  50  46
4
 0  0  0   7444  45188  13684 158980   0   0     0   448 7696  5710  59  25
16 


## ps aux
USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root         1  0.0  0.0  1416  456 ?        S    Dec10   0:06 init [3]
root         2  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Dec10   0:00
[migration_CPU0]
root         3  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Dec10   0:00
[migration_CPU1]
root         4  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Dec10   0:00 [keventd]
root         5  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        RWN  Dec10   0:01
[ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root         6  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        RWN  Dec10   0:01
[ksoftirqd_CPU1]
root         7  0.2  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Dec10   3:29 [kswapd]
root         8  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Dec10   0:00 [bdflush]
root         9  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Dec10   0:00 [kupdated]
root        10  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Dec10   0:00 [mdrecoveryd]
root        14  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Dec10   0:13 [kjournald]
root        92  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Dec10   0:00 [khubd]
root       182  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Dec10   0:00 [kjournald]
root       798  0.0  0.0  1476  528 ?        S    Dec10   0:03 syslogd -m 0
root       803  0.0  0.0  2136  492 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 klogd -2
rpc        823  0.0  0.0  1568  604 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 portmap
rpcuser    851  0.0  0.0  1600  596 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 rpc.statd
root      1002  0.0  0.1  3268 1216 ?        S    Dec10   0:00
/usr/sbin/sshd
root      1035  0.0  0.0  2316  704 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 xinetd
-stayalive -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid
root      1076  0.0  0.2  5304 1644 ?        S    Dec10   0:03 sendmail:
accepting connections
root      1107  0.0  0.0  1592  644 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 crond
xfs       1161  0.0  0.0  4564  664 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 xfs -droppriv
-daemon
daemon    1197  0.0  0.0  1448  488 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/atd
named     1232  0.0  0.3 13900 2528 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 named -u
named
named     1234  0.0  0.3 13900 2528 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 named -u
named
named     1235  0.0  0.3 13900 2528 ?        S    Dec10   0:59 named -u
named
named     1236  0.0  0.3 13900 2528 ?        S    Dec10   0:58 named -u
named
named     1237  0.0  0.3 13900 2528 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 named -u
named
named     1238  0.0  0.3 13900 2528 ?        S    Dec10   0:25 named -u
named
root      1249  0.0  0.1  5956 1256 ?        S    Dec10   0:01 /usr/bin/perl
/usr/libexec/webmin/miniserv.pl /etc/webmin/mini
root      1253  0.0  0.0  1388  368 tty1     S    Dec10   0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty1
root      1254  0.0  0.0  1388  368 tty2     S    Dec10   0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty2
root      1255  0.0  0.0  1388  368 tty3     S    Dec10   0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty3
root      1256  0.0  0.0  1388  368 tty4     S    Dec10   0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty4
root      1257  0.0  0.0  1388  368 tty5     S    Dec10   0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty5
root      1258  0.0  0.0  1388  368 tty6     S    Dec10   0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty6
root      6940  0.0  0.2  6712 1788 ?        S    Dec10   0:00
/usr/sbin/sshd
root      6944  0.0  0.1  2556 1176 pts/1    S    Dec10   0:00 -bash
root     29549  0.0  0.2  6664 2076 ?        S    13:46   0:00
/usr/sbin/sshd
root     29552  0.0  0.1  2528 1352 pts/0    S    13:46   0:00 -bash
root     29622  0.0  0.2  4940 1892 ?        S    13:47   0:00 smbd -D
root     29627  0.0  0.2  3920 1740 ?        S    13:47   0:02 nmbd -D
root     29628  0.0  0.1  3872 1500 ?        S    13:47   0:00 nmbd -D
root     29929  0.0  0.2  3360 1668 pts/0    S    13:53   0:00 ssh 10.1.1.10
root     31539  0.0  0.3  6348 2568 ?        S    14:56   0:00 sendmail:
./gB9LXsY03345 hotmail.co.uk.: user open
root     32124  0.0  0.6 41352 4648 ?        S    15:19   0:00
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32125  0.3  1.2 42140 9484 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32126  0.3  1.1 42092 9228 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32127  0.3  1.2 41956 9272 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32128  0.3  1.2 42056 9348 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32129  0.3  1.2 41976 9424 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32130  0.3  1.2 42064 9492 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32131  0.4  1.1 41956 9008 ?        S    15:19   0:07
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32132  0.2  1.1 42352 9196 ?        S    15:19   0:04
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32133  0.3  1.2 42076 9396 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32134  0.1  1.1 42044 9080 ?        S    15:19   0:02
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32135  0.3  1.2 42064 9444 ?        R    15:19   0:07
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32136  0.3  1.2 42084 9336 ?        S    15:19   0:07
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32137  0.3  1.2 42032 9388 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32138  0.3  1.1 42036 8916 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32139  0.3  1.2 42072 9376 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32140  0.2  1.2 42020 9356 ?        S    15:19   0:05
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32141  0.5  1.3 43344 10616 ?       R    15:19   0:08
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32142  0.3  1.1 42016 9140 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32143  0.4  1.2 42152 9580 ?        R    15:19   0:07
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32144  0.1  1.2 42436 9372 ?        R    15:19   0:02
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32145  0.3  1.2 42084 9856 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32146  0.3  1.2 41960 9500 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32147  0.3  1.1 41992 9048 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32148  0.3  1.2 42092 9400 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32149  0.1  1.1 41888 8912 ?        R    15:19   0:03
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32150  0.3  1.1 41944 9224 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32151  0.3  1.2 42140 9352 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32152  0.3  1.2 42096 9556 ?        R    15:19   0:07
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32153  0.3  1.2 42160 9528 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32154  0.4  1.2 41964 9844 ?        S    15:19   0:07
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32155  0.2  1.1 42020 8860 ?        R    15:19   0:05
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32156  0.3  1.2 42244 9472 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32157  0.3  1.1 42064 9048 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32158  0.3  1.1 42020 9072 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32159  0.3  1.2 42128 9748 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32160  0.3  1.2 42092 9384 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32161  0.3  1.1 42160 9244 ?        R    15:19   0:05
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32162  0.3  1.2 41992 9348 ?        S    15:19   0:05
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32163  0.3  1.2 42116 9416 ?        R    15:19   0:05
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32164  0.3  1.1 42076 9240 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32165  0.3  1.1 41800 8980 ?        S    15:19   0:05
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32166  0.4  1.1 41976 9008 ?        R    15:19   0:07
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32167  0.3  1.1 41968 9236 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32168  0.3  1.1 41924 8908 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32169  0.3  1.2 42036 9368 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32170  0.3  1.2 42048 9284 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32171  0.3  1.2 41916 9580 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32172  0.3  1.1 41996 8916 ?        S    15:19   0:05
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32173  0.4  1.2 42168 9328 ?        R    15:19   0:07
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32174  0.3  1.2 41976 9432 ?        R    15:19   0:05
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32175  0.3  1.1 41988 8912 ?        R    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32176  0.1  1.1 41948 8752 ?        R    15:19   0:02
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32177  0.3  1.2 42096 9544 ?        R    15:19   0:06
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500      32178  0.3  1.2 42028 9304 ?        R    15:19   0:06
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500      32179  0.3  1.1 42068 9168 ?        S    15:19   0:06
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500      32180  0.3  1.2 41936 9392 ?        R    15:19   0:06
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500      32181  0.3  1.2 42004 9700 ?        R    15:19   0:06
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500      32182  0.3  1.1 41976 9196 ?        S    15:19   0:05
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500      32183  0.3  1.2 42060 9796 ?        R    15:19   0:06
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500      32184  0.4  1.1 42036 8888 ?        R    15:19   0:07
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32185  0.3  1.2 42232 9824 ?        S    15:19   0:06
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32186  0.3  1.1 42068 9084 ?        S    15:19   0:05
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32187  0.4  1.1 42056 8900 ?        R    15:19   0:07
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500      32188  0.3  1.2 41932 9488 ?        S    15:19   0:06
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500      32189  0.3  1.1 42016 9112 ?        S    15:19   0:06
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500      32190  0.3  1.1 42000 9036 ?        R    15:19   0:06
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500      32191  0.2  1.1 41904 8980 ?        S    15:19   0:03
/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
500      32192  0.3  1.1 42112 9176 ?        R    15:19   0:06
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500      32193  0.3  1.1 42044 9184 ?        R    15:19   0:06
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500      32194  0.3  1.1 42016 9184 ?        R    15:19   0:06
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500      32195  0.3  1.2 41916 9428 ?        R    15:19   0:06
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500      32196  0.2  1.2 42076 9348 ?        R    15:19   0:05
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root       391  2.2  0.1  2364 1296 pts/1    S    15:32   0:22 top
root       392  0.0  0.2  6668 2084 ?        S    15:32   0:00
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root       394  0.0  0.1  2540 1360 pts/2    S    15:32   0:00 -bash
root       440  2.3  0.0  1448  484 pts/2    S    15:32   0:22 vmstat 1
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root       988  0.0  0.1  4876 1376 ?        S    15:48   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail -i -t -fnobody@network54.com
root       989 23.0  0.1  3224 1292 pts/3    R    15:48   0:00 ps aux
root       990  0.0  0.1  4876 1376 ?        R    15:48   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail -i -t -fnobody@network54.com


Sincerely,
Steven Roussey
http://Network54.com/ 




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* Re: [PATCH] (2/2) i386 discontigmem support against 2.4.21pre1: discontigmem
From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2002-12-11 23:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Patricia Gaughen; +Cc: marcelo, linux-kernel
In-Reply-To: <200212112335.gBBNZqN04597@w-gaughen.beaverton.ibm.com>

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:35:52PM -0800, Patricia Gaughen wrote:
> This patch provides generic discontiguous memory support for the i386
> numa architecture.  The patch also provides supports for the ia32 IBM
> NUMA-Q hardware platform.  John Stultz also has added support for the
> x440 hardware, but now it's mine.  This will be posted separately at a 
> later date.  A version of this patch has been accepted into the v2.5
> tree starting with 2.5.34.
> 
> This patch depends on the paddr->pfn patch that I just sent out.
> 

[snip]

> Any and all feedback regarding this patch is greatly appreciated.

The patch looks very nice.  And it looks like it got testing in -aa
for a fair while.


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* Memory Measurements and Lots of Files and Inodes
From: Patrick R. McManus @ 2002-12-11 23:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Hello All,

I've got a box with 750MB of RAM.. for the sake of this test, I've
turned off swap. I also have a little program that creates and deletes
lots of little files on a RAMDISK with ext2 on it. The ramdisk is only
4MB max and the files are about 3K and there are never more than four
of them at a time - but the program is constantly creating and
deleting hundreds of thousands of them. I have no reason to think this
issue is unique to the ramdisk - it just makes files faster.

Just sitting back and watching vmstat while this runs my 'free' memory
drops from ~600MB to about ~16MB.. the buffers and cache remain roughly
constant.. at 16MB some sort of garbage collection kicks in - there is
a notable system pause and ~70MB moves from the used to the 'free'
column... this process repeats more or less in a steady state.

If, while this is going on, I run another little app that does
{x= malloc(300MB), memset (x,0,300MB), free (x)}.. suddenly I can move
300MB from the used to the 'free' state...

I assume there is some VFS structure that is growing (perhaps related
to the tremendous # of inodes I'm going through) and is only cleansed
when the number of free pages gets too low.. I'd be interested in any
details someone could provide.

My real question is about the commonly (?) used metric of
free+buffers+cached representing the size of an allocation that could
succeed.. my 300MB allocation above proves that doesn't apply
here.. although, if I turn on strict accounting, that 300MB does fail
even though there is only perhaps 150MB of userspace allocations
outstanding on the box.

Can anybody provide a better metric for "ram free for userspace
allocations"?

Thanks,
-Patrick

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* Re: [Linux-ia64] fpswa logging redux
From: David Mosberger @ 2002-12-11 23:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-ia64
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-ia64-105590709805545@msgid-missing>

>>>>> On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:25:14 -0800, Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@sgi.com> said:

  Jesse> I'd like to fully decode the information in the isr about
  Jesse> what type of fault occured (whether it be a software assist
  Jesse> fault, some sort of IEEE filter fault, etc.) and print it
  Jesse> along with the ip when faults occur.  While I'm at it, I may
  Jesse> as well the proper SIGFPE subcode into si_info in case of
  Jesse> signal delivery is selected.

Like Keith, I'd like to keep the amount of decoding in the kernel as
minimal as possible.  We already have si_isr in the siginfo structure,
so apps/libraries can decode things themselves.  Having said that, we
ought to decode things sufficiently so that si_code can be set to the
correct value (where this makes sense).  Hopefully, that won't add
tons of code and it would help application portability.

	--david


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* Re: [PATCH 2.5] SGI O2 framebuffer driver
From: Vivien Chappelier @ 2002-12-11 23:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox; +Cc: Ralf Baechle, linux-mips, Ilya Volynets
In-Reply-To: <1039648548.18587.52.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>

On 11 Dec 2002, Alan Cox wrote:

> Since vmalloc is physically non linear is there any reason you can't
> just use get_free_page() a lot ?

I'm not using vmalloc directly. I'm indeed using many get_free_pages of 64kB,
as the O2 FB device has a TLB of it's own and can handle a non physically
linear framebuffer (up to 8MB with 64kB granularity). I'm then remapping
all those pages to one virtual region obtained from get_vm_area so that
1. caching attributes can be set to cacheable write-through no WA
2. the fbcon-cfb* code can be used as it sees the framebuffer as linear.
3. 64kB chuncks can be dynamically allocated and freed depending on the
framebuffer resolution, keeping memory optimally shared between apps and
framebuffer (compared to the static bootmem allocation).

However, as it is implemented currently, there are only 1024 kernel
virtual->physical mappings available (include/asm-mips64/pgtable.h),
that is only 4MB can be mapped. Maybe something like fixmap would help
but it's not yet there for mips64.

regards,
Vivien.

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* Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Solved: Kernel crash when loggin in via ssh
From: John David Anglin @ 2002-12-11 23:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: M. Grabert; +Cc: carlos, parisc-linux
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212112313290.861-100000@sal.ucc.ie>

> > > Yes, it might be a gcc issue ... haven't thought of that ...
> > > I'll try to recompile the latest kernel with a gcc-3.0.4 - tomorrow!
> 
> It IS a gcc issue.

That is not sufficient proof.  Just because code "works" with one compiler
version, doesn't mean that there isn't a problem with the code.  Someone
actually has to produce a sample of miscompiled code.  The debian 3.0.4
is not a supported version of gcc.

Dave
-- 
J. David Anglin                                  dave.anglin@nrc.ca
National Research Council of Canada              (613) 990-0752 (FAX: 952-6605)

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* Re: Is this going to be true ?
From: Henning P. Schmiedehausen @ 2002-12-11 23:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
In-Reply-To: <3DF66754.3020901@WirelessNetworksInc.com>

Herman Oosthuysen <Herman@WirelessNetworksInc.com> writes:

>kind of BSD, so to release a Linux version of MS Office and other 
>utilities, would be very easy for them as they just need to recompile 
>the Apple versions.

BS. Mac OS X does not use the X11 window system. That's where the fun lies.
If a company decides to release an application for Linux they will either
rewrite it using Motif (ugh) or use a modern window tool kit like GTK or
QT. Or even (horrors) use some sort of Windows Compatibility Library like
WINE or WxWindows. 

But you can't compile a MacOS X application on Linux. You're missing all of
the necessary display libraries and infrastructure.

	Regards
		Henning

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* Re: Confusing help texts?
From: Greg KH @ 2002-12-11 23:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pavel Machek; +Cc: kernel list
In-Reply-To: <20021211224422.GA461@elf.ucw.cz>

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 11:44:22PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> + * Prevents any programs running with egid == 0 if a specific USB device
> + * is not present in the system.  Yes, it can be gotten around, but is a
> + * nice starting point for people to play with, and learn the LSM
> + * interface.
> 
> How can you "prevent any program"?

Heh, it's confusing, sorry.

> 
> +         It enables control over processes being created by root users
> +         if a specific USB device is not present in the system.
> 
> Enables control over processes?

Basically, if the USB device is not in the system, then you can not
start any new program as egid = 0.  That's all.

Patches gladly accepted to clean this stuff up :)

thanks,

greg k-h

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* romfs
From: Garst R. Reese @ 2002-12-11 23:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Is there a current maintainer for romfs?
pls cc me.
Thanks, 
  Garst

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