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From: "Łukasz Mierzwa" <prymitive@pcserwis.net>
To: David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com>
Cc: "reiserfs-list@namesys.com" <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: why does reiserfs list get so much spam?
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:51:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.sw7n4cazd4os1z@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <432B143B.8030808@slaphack.com>

Dnia Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:51:39 +0200, David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com> napisa³:

> Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
>> David Masover schrieb:
>>
>> (...)
>>
>>>> If You will look in the headers of messages that You get from this list
>>>> You will see that there is spamassassin running on thebsh.namesys.com,
>>>> it's just that it is not configured good enough.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can spamassassin be configured "good" enough?
>>>
>>> I use dspam:
>>>
>>> http://www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/dspam/
>>>
>>> There are some articles about why dspam has a fundamentally better
>>> design than spamassassin, and why in general statistical filters beat
>>> manual-rule-based ones like spamassassin.
>>
>>
>> Yeah spamassassin can work extremely well.
>>
>> I guess these articles are based on the quality of spamassassin which
>> checks spam from this list? :)
>>
>> And it's not really true that spamassassin is a manual-rule-based filter
>> only.
>
> Right, but the statistical/learning component of spamassassin is just
> that -- a component, to be combined with razor/pyzor, manual rules, and
> anything else they can think of.  I think dspam does a much better job
> at being a statistical filter, and that's all it does -- and that's all
> it needs to.  Some people have reported 99.997% accuracy from dspam,
> beating humans.
>
> Anyway, the articles are about the principle of the thing.  A
> statistical filter will beat a manual one every time, because it's
> faster and better at coming up with rules, and you don't need to update
> your definitions to start filtering the new spam -- just train on two or
> three mails, and you're done.
>

SpamAssassin uses bayes so You don't need any definitions for SA to detect new spam, it learns itself if message have enough points.
All You have to do is learn SA with sa-learn after instaling.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-16 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-16 10:18 why does reiserfs list get so much spam? Tomasz Chmielewski
2005-09-16 10:41 ` Ingo Bormuth
2005-09-16 10:52   ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2005-09-16 11:03     ` Lexington Luthor
2005-09-16 11:08     ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2005-09-16 11:19       ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2005-09-16 12:40         ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-16 12:46           ` Łukasz Mierzwa
2005-09-16 14:12             ` Bruce Israel
     [not found]             ` <20050916135217.GA12930@kruemel>
2005-09-16 14:41               ` Łukasz Mierzwa
2005-09-16 18:24             ` David Masover
2005-09-16 18:32               ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2005-09-16 18:51                 ` David Masover
2005-09-16 19:11                   ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2005-09-16 19:51                   ` Łukasz Mierzwa [this message]
2005-09-16 19:54                     ` David Masover
2005-09-16 14:00         ` Grzegorz Kulewski

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