Re: Alsa and the ice1724 chipset

Re: Alsa and the ice1724 chipset

[Takashi Iwai]

At Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:43:56 -0400,
Joel Hill wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:07:32 +0200
> Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > At Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:49:34 -0400,
> > Joel Hill wrote:
> > > 
> > > I was wondering if you wrote this driver and if so why it is that i can loud the modules no problems alsamixer can change the dac's etc but i get no sound and xmms alsaplayer and aplay all hang 
> > 
> > what card is that?
> > are you sure that no other apps block the pcm device?
> > 
> > it's working fine on terratec aureon and m-audio revolution boards.
> > 
> > 
> > Takashi
> Thankyou for your reply Takashi
> 
> i have a m-audio revolution and i have a santa cruz cs46xx in the machine with the revo card i can use the cs46xx based card but the ice1724 just causes freezes lockups etc, only reason i have both of them in here at the same time is because i need sound while i fix this ice1724 issue. i can use alsamixer to mix both cards with alsamixer -c 0 or -c 1, aplay hang's xmms says 'sample format not available for playback: invalid argument' mplayer see's the device but locks after it detects the card, once again the santa cruz cs46xx based doesnt show these problems at all so i dont understand.

ice1724 doesn't support 16bit format.
try to use plughw instead of hw layer if you use ALSA native apps.


Takashi


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Re: Alsa and the ice1724 chipset

[Takashi Iwai]

At Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:57:05 -0400,
Joel Hill wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:48:28 +0200
> Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > At Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:43:56 -0400,
> > Joel Hill wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:07:32 +0200
> > > Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > At Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:49:34 -0400,
> > > > Joel Hill wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was wondering if you wrote this driver and if so why it is that i can loud the modules no problems alsamixer can change the dac's etc but i get no sound and xmms alsaplayer and aplay all hang 
> > > > 
> > > > what card is that?
> > > > are you sure that no other apps block the pcm device?
> > > > 
> > > > it's working fine on terratec aureon and m-audio revolution boards.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Takashi
> > > Thankyou for your reply Takashi
> > > 
> > > i have a m-audio revolution and i have a santa cruz cs46xx in the machine with the revo card i can use the cs46xx based card but the ice1724 just causes freezes lockups etc, only reason i have both of them in here at the same time is because i need sound while i fix this ice1724 issue. i can use alsamixer to mix both cards with alsamixer -c 0 or -c 1, aplay hang's xmms says 'sample format not available for playback: invalid argument' mplayer see's the device but locks after it detects the card, once again the santa cruz cs46xx based doesnt show these problems at all so i dont understand.
> > 
> > ice1724 doesn't support 16bit format.
> > try to use plughw instead of hw layer if you use ALSA native apps.
> > 
> > 
> > Takashi
> 
> hmm im looking online and i cant find any real info on it 'non-dev' stuff
> is it part of alsa-lib or a seperate thing all togethor?

what do you mean 'non-dev'?
please give the info what you're doing.  if you use OSS output plugin
of xmms, then it should work as it is.  if it's ALSA-native plugin,
then you need to set up to use plughw:0 instead of hw:0.  how to set
up is depending on the application.  don't ask me :)


Takashi


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Re: Alsa and the ice1724 chipset

[Takashi Iwai]

At Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:09:30 -0400,
Joel Hill wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:06:11 +0200
> Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > At Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:57:05 -0400,
> > Joel Hill wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:48:28 +0200
> > > Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > At Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:43:56 -0400,
> > > > Joel Hill wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:07:32 +0200
> > > > > Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > At Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:49:34 -0400,
> > > > > > Joel Hill wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I was wondering if you wrote this driver and if so why it is that i can loud the modules no problems alsamixer can change the dac's etc but i get no sound and xmms alsaplayer and aplay all hang 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > what card is that?
> > > > > > are you sure that no other apps block the pcm device?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > it's working fine on terratec aureon and m-audio revolution boards.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Takashi
> > > > > Thankyou for your reply Takashi
> > > > > 
> > > > > i have a m-audio revolution and i have a santa cruz cs46xx in the machine with the revo card i can use the cs46xx based card but the ice1724 just causes freezes lockups etc, only reason i have both of them in here at the same time is because i need sound while i fix this ice1724 issue. i can use alsamixer to mix both cards with alsamixer -c 0 or -c 1, aplay hang's xmms says 'sample format not available for playback: invalid argument' mplayer see's the device but locks after it detects the card, once again the santa cruz cs46xx based doesnt show these problems at all so i dont understand.
> > > > 
> > > > ice1724 doesn't support 16bit format.
> > > > try to use plughw instead of hw layer if you use ALSA native apps.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Takashi
> > > 
> > > hmm im looking online and i cant find any real info on it 'non-dev' stuff
> > > is it part of alsa-lib or a seperate thing all togethor?
> > 
> > what do you mean 'non-dev'?
> > please give the info what you're doing.  if you use OSS output plugin
> > of xmms, then it should work as it is.  if it's ALSA-native plugin,
> > then you need to set up to use plughw:0 instead of hw:0.  how to set
> > up is depending on the application.  don't ask me :)
> > 
> > 
> > Takashi
> 
> oss or alsa does not work xmms mplayer aplay all show the same results

could you elaborate the symptom a bit more precisely and what
_exactly_ did you do?  i don't know whether it's a kernel lock-up, or
just the device is blocked, etc.

otherwise i cannot help.


Takashi


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Re: Alsa and the ice1724 chipset

[Takashi Iwai]

At Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:02:42 -0400,
Joel Hill wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:48:28 +0200
> Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > At Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:43:56 -0400,
> > Joel Hill wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:07:32 +0200
> > > Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > At Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:49:34 -0400,
> > > > Joel Hill wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was wondering if you wrote this driver and if so why it is that i can loud the modules no problems alsamixer can change the dac's etc but i get no sound and xmms alsaplayer and aplay all hang 
> > > > 
> > > > what card is that?
> > > > are you sure that no other apps block the pcm device?
> > > > 
> > > > it's working fine on terratec aureon and m-audio revolution boards.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Takashi
> > > Thankyou for your reply Takashi
> > > 
> > > i have a m-audio revolution and i have a santa cruz cs46xx in the machine with the revo card i can use the cs46xx based card but the ice1724 just causes freezes lockups etc, only reason i have both of them in here at the same time is because i need sound while i fix this ice1724 issue. i can use alsamixer to mix both cards with alsamixer -c 0 or -c 1, aplay hang's xmms says 'sample format not available for playback: invalid argument' mplayer see's the device but locks after it detects the card, once again the santa cruz cs46xx based doesnt show these problems at all so i dont understand.
> > 
> > ice1724 doesn't support 16bit format.
> > try to use plughw instead of hw layer if you use ALSA native apps.
> > 
> > 
> > Takashi
> i just went into xmms for eg and defined the alsa output as plughw:0,0 and it works but thats the cs46xx based card with plughw:1,0 which is the ice1724 it just freezes like it did before.

do you mean freeze as the kernel lock-up or the machine is still responsible?

> so i dont know if thats the issue then

again, did you check whether no other apps block the device?
cs46xx can play multiple streams at the same time, while ice1724
cannot.


Takashi


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Re: Re: Alsa and the ice1724 chipset

[Thierry Vignaud]

Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> writes:

> > > > > > I was wondering if you wrote this driver and if so why it
> > > > > > is that i can loud the modules no problems alsamixer can
> > > > > > change the dac's etc but i get no sound and xmms
> > > > > > alsaplayer and aplay all hang
> > > > > 
> > > > > what card is that?
> > > > > are you sure that no other apps block the pcm device?
> > > > > 
> > > > > it's working fine on terratec aureon and m-audio revolution
> > > > > boards.
> > > >
> > > > i have a m-audio revolution and i have a santa cruz cs46xx in
> > > > the machine with the revo card i can use the cs46xx based card
> > > > but the ice1724 just causes freezes lockups etc, only reason i
> > > > have both of them in here at the same time is because i need
> > > > sound while i fix this ice1724 issue. i can use alsamixer to
> > > > mix both cards with alsamixer -c 0 or -c 1, aplay hang's xmms
> > > > says 'sample format not available for playback: invalid
> > > > argument' mplayer see's the device but locks after it detects
> > > > the card, once again the santa cruz cs46xx based doesnt show
> > > > these problems at all so i dont understand.
> > > 
> > > ice1724 doesn't support 16bit format.
> > > try to use plughw instead of hw layer if you use ALSA native apps.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Takashi
> > i just went into xmms for eg and defined the alsa output as
> > plughw:0,0 and it works but thats the cs46xx based card with
> > plughw:1,0 which is the ice1724 it just freezes like it did
> > before.
> 
> do you mean freeze as the kernel lock-up or the machine is still
> responsible?
> 
> > so i dont know if thats the issue then
> 
> again, did you check whether no other apps block the device?
> cs46xx can play multiple streams at the same time, while ice1724
> cannot.

regardince M-Audio buggy support, i got a strange bug report about
snd-ice1724 in alsa-drivers-0.9.6 on kernel 2.4.2x, see mdk bug #5084:
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5084



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Re: m-audio delta

[Thierry Vignaud]

Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> writes:

> > regardince M-Audio buggy support, i got a strange bug report about
> > snd-ice1724 in alsa-drivers-0.9.6 on kernel 2.4.2x, see mdk bug #5084:
> > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5084
> 
> it's ice1712.
> 
> and, i still suspect it's a mixer configuration problem...  not the
> output of amixer but /etc/asound.state would show more details.

here it is:
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=770&action=view



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