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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>
Cc: Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>,
	Mario.Limonciello@dell.com,
	nouveau <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Linux ACPI Mailing List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alex Hung <alex.hung@canonical.com>,
	Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@redhat.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Nouveau] [PATCH 1/7] Revert "ACPI / OSI: Add OEM _OSI string to enable dGPU direct output"
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 16:56:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5ho90qa34m.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADnq5_Nv6tsW0J20td5rQSLq048HtTcw1b4c25jP6ZR6XWZ-eA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 16:37:05 +0200,
Alex Deucher wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:25 AM Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 4:20 PM <Mario.Limonciello@dell.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > There are definitely going to be regressions on machines in the field with the
> > > > > in tree drivers by reverting this.  I think we should have an answer for all of
> > > > those
> > > > > before this revert is accepted.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding systems with Intel+NVIDIA, we'll have to work with partners to
> > > > collect
> > > > > some information on the impact of reverting this.
> > > > >
> > > > > When this is used on a system with Intel+AMD the ASL configures AMD GPU to
> > > > use
> > > > > "Hybrid Graphics" when on Windows and "Power Express" and "Switchable
> > > > Graphics"
> > > > > when on Linux.
> > > >
> > > > and what's exactly the difference between those? And what's the actual
> > > > issue here?
> > >
> > > DP/HDMI is not detected unless plugged in at bootup.  It's due to missing HPD
> > > events.
> > >
> >
> > afaik Lyude was working on fixing all that, at least for some drivers.
> > If there is something wrong, we still should fix the drivers, not
> > adding ACPI workarounds.
> >
> > Alex: do you know if there are remaining issues regarding that with amdgpu?
> 
> There was an issue with hpd events not making it to the audio side
> when things were powered down that was fixed with this patch set:
> https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/316793/
> Those patches depended on a bunch of alsa changes as well which may
> have not been available in the distro used for a particular OEM
> program.

FYI, the corresponding commit for ALSA part is destined for 5.4
kernel: 
  https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git/commit/?id=ade49db337a9d44ac5835cfce1ee873549011b27

BTW, Nouveau should suffer from the same problem.  The patch to add
the audio component support is found at:
  https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/319131/


thanks,

Takashi

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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
To: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mario.Limonciello-8PEkshWhKlo@public.gmane.org,
	nouveau
	<nouveau-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki"
	<rafael.j.wysocki-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	dri-devel
	<dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux ACPI Mailing List
	<linux-acpi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Alex Hung <alex.hung-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
	Ben Skeggs <bskeggs-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] Revert "ACPI / OSI: Add OEM _OSI string to enable dGPU direct output"
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 16:56:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5ho90qa34m.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADnq5_Nv6tsW0J20td5rQSLq048HtTcw1b4c25jP6ZR6XWZ-eA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 16:37:05 +0200,
Alex Deucher wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:25 AM Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 4:20 PM <Mario.Limonciello@dell.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > There are definitely going to be regressions on machines in the field with the
> > > > > in tree drivers by reverting this.  I think we should have an answer for all of
> > > > those
> > > > > before this revert is accepted.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding systems with Intel+NVIDIA, we'll have to work with partners to
> > > > collect
> > > > > some information on the impact of reverting this.
> > > > >
> > > > > When this is used on a system with Intel+AMD the ASL configures AMD GPU to
> > > > use
> > > > > "Hybrid Graphics" when on Windows and "Power Express" and "Switchable
> > > > Graphics"
> > > > > when on Linux.
> > > >
> > > > and what's exactly the difference between those? And what's the actual
> > > > issue here?
> > >
> > > DP/HDMI is not detected unless plugged in at bootup.  It's due to missing HPD
> > > events.
> > >
> >
> > afaik Lyude was working on fixing all that, at least for some drivers.
> > If there is something wrong, we still should fix the drivers, not
> > adding ACPI workarounds.
> >
> > Alex: do you know if there are remaining issues regarding that with amdgpu?
> 
> There was an issue with hpd events not making it to the audio side
> when things were powered down that was fixed with this patch set:
> https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/316793/
> Those patches depended on a bunch of alsa changes as well which may
> have not been available in the distro used for a particular OEM
> program.

FYI, the corresponding commit for ALSA part is destined for 5.4
kernel: 
  https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git/commit/?id=ade49db337a9d44ac5835cfce1ee873549011b27

BTW, Nouveau should suffer from the same problem.  The patch to add
the audio component support is found at:
  https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/319131/


thanks,

Takashi
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-15 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-14 21:31 [PATCH 0/7] Adding a proper workaround for fixing RTD3 issues with Nouveau Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31 ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 1/7] Revert "ACPI / OSI: Add OEM _OSI string to enable dGPU direct output" Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:49   ` Alex Hung
2019-08-14 22:47   ` [Nouveau] " Dave Airlie
2019-08-15 13:55     ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 13:55       ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 14:04       ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-15 14:13         ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:15           ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-15 14:17             ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:23               ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 14:23                 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 14:35                 ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-15 14:35                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-15 14:41                 ` [Nouveau] " Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:41                   ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:19         ` [Nouveau] " Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 14:19           ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 14:25           ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-15 14:34             ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 14:34               ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 14:36               ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-15 14:37             ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:56               ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2019-08-15 14:56                 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-08-15 16:19                 ` [Nouveau] " Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 16:19                   ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 17:43                   ` Takashi Iwai
2019-08-15 17:43                     ` Takashi Iwai
2019-08-15 18:34                   ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:59               ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:59                 ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:11     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-19  9:52     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-09-05 15:51       ` Karol Herbst
2019-09-05 15:51         ` Karol Herbst
2019-09-05 16:26         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-09-09 21:07           ` Alex Hung
2019-09-09 21:07             ` Alex Hung
2019-10-21  2:14           ` [Nouveau] " Alex Hung
2019-10-21  8:14             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-10-21  8:48               ` Karol Herbst
2019-10-21  8:54                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-09-05 16:35         ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 2/7] Revert "ACPI / OSI: Add OEM _OSI string to enable NVidia HDMI audio" Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31   ` Karol Herbst
2020-12-10 17:59   ` Lyude Paul
2020-12-10 17:59     ` Lyude Paul
2020-12-10 17:59     ` Lyude Paul
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 3/7] Revert "ACPI / OSI: Add OEM _OSI strings to disable NVidia RTD3" Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31   ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 23:34   ` Alex Hung
2019-08-15  4:44     ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 4/7] drm/nouveau/pci: enable pcie link changes for pascal Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31   ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 5/7] drm/nouveau/pci: add nvkm_pcie_get_speed Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31   ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 6/7] drm/nouveau/pci: save the boot pcie link speed and restore it on fini Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31   ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 7/7] drm/nouveau: abort runtime suspend if we hit an error Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31   ` Karol Herbst

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