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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>
Cc: "moderated list:SOUND" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	Kai Vehmanen <kai.vehmanen@linux.intel.com>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	tiwai@suse.com, Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ALSA: hda: Continue to probe when codec probe fails
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 16:58:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hzh2dn3oa.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAd53p6kORC1GsW5zt+=0=J5ki43iriO-OqtFvf5W67LWhyyhA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 16:50:20 +0100,
Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:41 PM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 13:47:24 +0100,
> > Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
> > >
> > > Similar to commit 9479e75fca37 ("ALSA: hda: Keep the controller
> > > initialization even if no codecs found"), when codec probe fails, it
> > > doesn't enable runtime suspend, and can prevent graphics card from
> > > getting powered down:
> > > [    4.280991] snd_hda_intel 0000:01:00.1: no codecs initialized
> > >
> > > $ cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.1/power/runtime_status
> > > active
> > >
> > > So mark there's no codec and continue probing to let runtime PM to work.
> > >
> > > BugLink: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1907212
> > > Signed-off-by: Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>
> >
> > Hm, but if the probe fails, doesn't it mean something really wrong?
> > IOW, how does this situation happen?
> 
> The HDA controller is forcely created by quirk_nvidia_hda(). So
> probably there's really not an HDA controller.

I still don't understand how non-zero codec_mask is passed.
The non-zero codec_mask means that BIOS or whatever believes that
HD-audio codecs are present and let HD-audio controller reporting the
presence.  What error did you get at probing?


> > The usual no-codec state is for the devices that have a bogus HD-audio
> > bus remaining while codecs aren't hooked or disabled by BIOS.  For
> > that, it makes to leave the controller driver and let it idle.  But if
> > you get really an error, it's something to fix there, not to just
> > ignore in general.
> 
> The best approach I can think of is to make current two steps probe
> into one. So when probe fails, the driver won't bind to the device.
> What's the reason behind the two steps approach?

It's a sort of must, as the module loading is involved with binding
with the codecs, as well as (optionally) request_firmware()
invocation.


Takashi

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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>
Cc: tiwai@suse.com, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
	Kai Vehmanen <kai.vehmanen@linux.intel.com>,
	Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:SOUND" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ALSA: hda: Continue to probe when codec probe fails
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 16:58:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hzh2dn3oa.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAd53p6kORC1GsW5zt+=0=J5ki43iriO-OqtFvf5W67LWhyyhA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 16:50:20 +0100,
Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:41 PM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 13:47:24 +0100,
> > Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
> > >
> > > Similar to commit 9479e75fca37 ("ALSA: hda: Keep the controller
> > > initialization even if no codecs found"), when codec probe fails, it
> > > doesn't enable runtime suspend, and can prevent graphics card from
> > > getting powered down:
> > > [    4.280991] snd_hda_intel 0000:01:00.1: no codecs initialized
> > >
> > > $ cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.1/power/runtime_status
> > > active
> > >
> > > So mark there's no codec and continue probing to let runtime PM to work.
> > >
> > > BugLink: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1907212
> > > Signed-off-by: Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>
> >
> > Hm, but if the probe fails, doesn't it mean something really wrong?
> > IOW, how does this situation happen?
> 
> The HDA controller is forcely created by quirk_nvidia_hda(). So
> probably there's really not an HDA controller.

I still don't understand how non-zero codec_mask is passed.
The non-zero codec_mask means that BIOS or whatever believes that
HD-audio codecs are present and let HD-audio controller reporting the
presence.  What error did you get at probing?


> > The usual no-codec state is for the devices that have a bogus HD-audio
> > bus remaining while codecs aren't hooked or disabled by BIOS.  For
> > that, it makes to leave the controller driver and let it idle.  But if
> > you get really an error, it's something to fix there, not to just
> > ignore in general.
> 
> The best approach I can think of is to make current two steps probe
> into one. So when probe fails, the driver won't bind to the device.
> What's the reason behind the two steps approach?

It's a sort of must, as the module loading is involved with binding
with the codecs, as well as (optionally) request_firmware()
invocation.


Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-16 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-14  6:06 [PATCH] ALSA: hda: Enable runtime PM when codec probe fails Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-14  6:06 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-14  7:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-14  7:58   ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-14 12:12   ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-16 12:47 ` [PATCH v2] ALSA: hda: Continue to probe " Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-16 12:47   ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-16 15:41   ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-16 15:41     ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-16 15:50     ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-16 15:50       ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-16 15:58       ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2020-12-16 15:58         ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-16 16:07         ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-16 16:07           ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-16 16:22           ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-16 16:22             ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-16 16:57             ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-16 16:57               ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-18  5:09               ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-18  5:09                 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-18  8:06                 ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-18  8:06                   ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-21 16:33                   ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-21 16:33                     ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-21 16:33                     ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-21 16:47                     ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-21 16:47                       ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-21 16:47                       ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-21 17:15                       ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-21 17:15                         ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-21 17:15                         ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-21 17:56                     ` [Nouveau] " Ilia Mirkin
2020-12-21 17:56                       ` Ilia Mirkin
2020-12-21 17:56                       ` [Nouveau] " Ilia Mirkin
2020-12-22  2:49                       ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-22  2:49                         ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-12-22  2:49                         ` [Nouveau] " Kai-Heng Feng
2021-01-04 13:20                         ` Karol Herbst
2021-01-04 13:20                           ` Karol Herbst
2021-01-04 13:20                           ` [Nouveau] " Karol Herbst
2021-04-10 15:51                           ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-10 15:51                             ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-10 15:51                             ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-10 19:23                             ` Lukas Wunner
2021-04-10 19:23                               ` Lukas Wunner
2021-04-10 19:23                               ` Lukas Wunner
2021-04-10 20:48                               ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-10 20:48                                 ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-10 20:48                                 ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-12 19:06                                 ` Aaron Plattner
2021-04-12 19:06                                   ` Aaron Plattner
2021-04-12 19:06                                   ` Aaron Plattner
2021-04-12 19:36                                   ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-12 19:36                                     ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-12 19:36                                     ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-12 20:00                                     ` Aaron Plattner
2021-04-12 20:00                                       ` Aaron Plattner
2021-04-12 20:00                                       ` Aaron Plattner
2021-04-12 20:03                                       ` Ilia Mirkin
2021-04-12 20:03                                         ` Ilia Mirkin
2021-04-12 20:03                                         ` Ilia Mirkin
2021-04-13  0:10                                     ` Karol Herbst
2021-04-13  0:10                                       ` Karol Herbst
2021-04-13  0:10                                       ` Karol Herbst
2021-04-13  8:24                                       ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-13  8:24                                         ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-13  8:24                                         ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-13  9:48                                         ` Karol Herbst
2021-04-13  9:48                                           ` Karol Herbst
2021-04-13  9:48                                           ` Karol Herbst
2021-04-13 11:17                                           ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-13 11:17                                             ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-13 11:17                                             ` Roy Spliet
2021-04-13 11:49                                             ` Karol Herbst
2021-04-13 11:49                                               ` Karol Herbst
2021-04-13 11:49                                               ` Karol Herbst
2021-06-25 12:45   ` Paul Cercueil
2021-06-25 12:45     ` Paul Cercueil
2021-07-02 17:59     ` Paul Cercueil
2021-07-02 17:59       ` Paul Cercueil
2021-07-02 18:26       ` Paul Cercueil
2021-07-02 18:26         ` Paul Cercueil

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