limiting bandwidth with iptables or squid?

limiting bandwidth with iptables or squid?

[it clown]

Hi All,

I would like to know how to limit bandwidth with iptables.I
would like to limit bandwidth to ip's and mac address.Do i
need another program to work with iptables or can iptables
do it on its own?Does any one know where i can find
something to read up on this?

If iptables can not do it can i do it with squid?

Regards
_____________________________________________________________________
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Re: limiting bandwidth with iptables or squid?

[Jason Opperisano]

On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 10:20, it clown wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I would like to know how to limit bandwidth with iptables.I
> would like to limit bandwidth to ip's and mac address.Do i
> need another program to work with iptables or can iptables
> do it on its own?Does any one know where i can find
> something to read up on this?
> 
> If iptables can not do it can i do it with squid?

first off--you can't do "inbound" traffic shaping--only outbound.  you
cannot control how fast incoming packets hit your machine or how big
they are--you can only control how fast you allow them to leave.

that being said--read chapter 9 of:

        http://lartc.org/howto/
        
-j

-- 
Jason Opperisano <opie@817west.com>

Re: limiting bandwidth with iptables or squid?

[it clown]

Sorry i ment outbound traffic.Thanks, will check the url
out.

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:16:41 -0400
 Jason Opperisano <opie@817west.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 10:20, it clown wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I would like to know how to limit bandwidth with
> iptables.I
> > would like to limit bandwidth to ip's and mac
> address.Do i
> > need another program to work with iptables or can
> iptables
> > do it on its own?Does any one know where i can find
> > something to read up on this?
> > 
> > If iptables can not do it can i do it with squid?
> 
> first off--you can't do "inbound" traffic shaping--only
> outbound.  you
> cannot control how fast incoming packets hit your machine
> or how big
> they are--you can only control how fast you allow them to
> leave.
> 
> that being said--read chapter 9 of:
> 
>         http://lartc.org/howto/
>         
> -j
> 
> -- 
> Jason Opperisano <opie@817west.com>
> 
> 

_____________________________________________________________________
For super low premiums ,click here http://www.dialdirect.co.za/quote

Re: limiting bandwidth with iptables or squid?

[Andy Furniss]

Jason Opperisano wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 10:20, it clown wrote:
> 
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I would like to know how to limit bandwidth with iptables.I
>>would like to limit bandwidth to ip's and mac address.Do i
>>need another program to work with iptables or can iptables
>>do it on its own?Does any one know where i can find
>>something to read up on this?
>>
>>If iptables can not do it can i do it with squid?
> 
> 
> first off--you can't do "inbound" traffic shaping--only outbound.

I know your link qualifies this a bit - but I'd say you can do inbound 
(narrow end of bottleneck)  traffic shaping. Albeit as an inperfect 
kludge and at the expense of some bandwidth. The imperfect bit being if 
you really care about latency - not bandwidth shaping, I would argue 
that I can do that almost perfectly as my ISP has a 600ms buffer and my 
shaping at 80% of 512kbit/s never looses control enough that packets get 
dropped from that.
   you
> cannot control how fast incoming packets hit your machine 

I assume TCP - which is clocked by acks - so the rate you dequeue does 
affect the rate at which packets hit ISP buffer. Packets never hit my 
machine faster than my link speed of course - which makes the queue get 
filled in a burstless way.

> or how big they are--

mss clamping :-)

Andy.

you can only control how fast you allow them to leave.
> 
> that being said--read chapter 9 of:
> 
>         http://lartc.org/howto/
>         
> -j
> 

Re: limiting bandwidth with iptables or squid?

[it clown]

Hi All,

I am abit confused with tc.

I need a string to limit band whidth for ips or mac
addresses.

iptables -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -s x.x.x.x -t mangle -j MARK
--set-mark 1

will mark the packets for that ip.i think.

what string for tc do i need to limit x.x.x.x to say 5kb/s
download speed? eth0 is my internal network card of my
linux box.

Regards

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:36:43 +0100
 Andy Furniss <andy.furniss@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> Jason Opperisano wrote:
> > On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 10:20, it clown wrote:
> > 
> >>Hi All,
> >>
> >>I would like to know how to limit bandwidth with
> iptables.I
> >>would like to limit bandwidth to ip's and mac
> address.Do i
> >>need another program to work with iptables or can
> iptables
> >>do it on its own?Does any one know where i can find
> >>something to read up on this?
> >>
> >>If iptables can not do it can i do it with squid?
> > 
> > 
> > first off--you can't do "inbound" traffic shaping--only
> outbound.
> 
> I know your link qualifies this a bit - but I'd say you
> can do inbound (narrow end of bottleneck)  traffic
> shaping. Albeit as an inperfect kludge and at the expense
> of some bandwidth. The imperfect bit being if you really
> care about latency - not bandwidth shaping, I would argue
> that I can do that almost perfectly as my ISP has a 600ms
> buffer and my shaping at 80% of 512kbit/s never looses
> control enough that packets get dropped from that.
>    you
> > cannot control how fast incoming packets hit your
> machine 
> 
> I assume TCP - which is clocked by acks - so the rate you
> dequeue does affect the rate at which packets hit ISP
> buffer. Packets never hit my machine faster than my link
> speed of course - which makes the queue get filled in a
> burstless way.
> 
> > or how big they are--
> 
> mss clamping :-)
> 
> Andy.
> 
> you can only control how fast you allow them to leave.
> > 
> > that being said--read chapter 9 of:
> > 
> >         http://lartc.org/howto/
> >         
> > -j
> > 
> 
> 
> 

_____________________________________________________________________
For super low premiums ,click here http://www.dialdirect.co.za/quote

Re: limiting bandwidth with iptables or squid?

[Andy Furniss]

it clown wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am abit confused with tc.
> 
> I need a string to limit band whidth for ips or mac
> addresses.
> 
> iptables -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -s x.x.x.x -t mangle -j MARK
> --set-mark 1

If you want to shape traffic from the internet to certain IPs there are 
several ways -
you could mark them on the WAN interface eg. -i ppp0. If you do it in 
PREROUTING and are doing NAT it won't work for local addresses, though.

If you do not care about shaping traffic headed for your shaping box and 
you only have one lan interface you can set up HTB/CBQ/HFSC egress on 
eth0. You could then use POSTROUTING to mark IPs which will be denatted 
  at that point.

> 
> will mark the packets for that ip.i think.
> 
> what string for tc do i need to limit x.x.x.x to say 5kb/s
> download speed? eth0 is my internal network card of my
> linux box.
>


I would use HTB - there are examples and links on www.docum.org / LARTC 
how to.

You will need to run at about 80% of your link speed.

Andy.

Re: limiting bandwidth with iptables or squid?

[Alexander Samad]

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You could look at iproute2 the command tc

lets you do traffic shapping!

So you could mark up packets in iptables and then traffic shape based on
that

A

On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 04:20:25PM +0200, it clown wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I would like to know how to limit bandwidth with iptables.I
> would like to limit bandwidth to ip's and mac address.Do i
> need another program to work with iptables or can iptables
> do it on its own?Does any one know where i can find
> something to read up on this?
> 
> If iptables can not do it can i do it with squid?
> 
> Regards
> _____________________________________________________________________
> For super low premiums ,click here http://www.dialdirect.co.za/quote
> 
> 

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Re: limiting bandwidth with iptables or squid?

[Matteo Santori]

Why don't you take a look at `man tc` ?

Greets,

M



On Sunday 24 October 2004 14:20, it clown wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I would like to know how to limit bandwidth with iptables.I
> would like to limit bandwidth to ip's and mac address.Do i
> need another program to work with iptables or can iptables
> do it on its own?Does any one know where i can find
> something to read up on this?
>
> If iptables can not do it can i do it with squid?
>
> Regards
> _____________________________________________________________________
> For super low premiums ,click here http://www.dialdirect.co.za/quote

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