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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	 Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: Kiran Kella <kiran.kella@broadcom.com>,
	 willemb@google.com,  davem@davemloft.net,  edumazet@google.com,
	 daniel.zahka@gmail.com,  pabeni@redhat.com,
	 andrew+netdev@lunn.ch,  horms@kernel.org,  shuah@kernel.org,
	 linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,  netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 jayakrishnan.udayavarma@broadcom.com,
	 ajit.khaparde@broadcom.com,  akhilesh.samineni@broadcom.com
Subject: Re: [net-next, v3 1/2] psp: Support for transmit on logical device when the underlying transport device supports PSP.
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2026 15:30:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <willemdebruijn.kernel.c17952a3eaa4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260228121034.48c2d282@kernel.org>

Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 14:46:28 -0500 Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 10:46:53 -0800 Kiran Kella wrote:  
> > > > This is achieved by propagating the psp_dev from the lower device
> > > > to the upper devices in the device stack via a netdevice notifier.
> > > > The lowest device owns the psp_dev pointer while the upper devices
> > > > just borrow the pointer. When the lower device is unlinked, the
> > > > borrowed pointer is cleared in the upper device.
> > > > Assumption being that psp_dev is set on the lowest device before
> > > > any upper devices are stacked on that lowest device.  
> > > 
> > > As I mentioned in the other thread I'd like to establish some clear
> > > expectation on where psd propagates automatically and where it doesn't.
> > > I don't want to see a stream of patches that say "fix propagating PSP
> > > onto X upper". And conversely report saying "PSP got propagated but
> > > it doesn't actually work" (macvlan in bridge mode etc).
> > > 
> > > Hence my preference was to require the user who created the device
> > > to propagate PSP. Willem, WDYT?  
> > 
> > Can you give a bit more detail what you have in mind?
> > 
> > An explicit user (netlink) API to associate a psp_dev with a
> > net_device?
> 
> Yes:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260224002410.1553838-7-weibunny@fb.com/

I see. Yes, fair to ask for an explicit sensible policy.

It would be nice if PSP could transparently be enabled on upper
devices, similar to dev->features.

But this quickly runs into practical questions like when and how can a
bonding device with multiple independent lower devices support PSP?

dev->features also has type specific carve-outs for upper types, such
as vlan_features and hw_enc_features. We probably don't want to
introduce the same for PSP.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-28 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-26 18:46 [net-next, v3 0/2] psp: Support PSP Tx on logical devices like VLAN Kiran Kella
2026-02-26 18:46 ` [net-next, v3 1/2] psp: Support for transmit on logical device when the underlying transport device supports PSP Kiran Kella
2026-02-28 18:04   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-28 19:46     ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-02-28 20:10       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-28 20:30         ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2026-03-02  7:42     ` Kiran Kella
2026-02-26 18:46 ` [net-next, v3 2/2] selftests: drv-net: psp: add test for VLAN sub-interface Kiran Kella

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