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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/16] t5304: use helper to report failure of "test foo = bar"
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 09:58:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq7g0acxc5.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141008011304.GA26864@peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Tue, 7 Oct 2014 21:13:04 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 12:17:07AM +0200, Michael Haggerty wrote:
>
>> On 10/07/2014 11:53 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> > Hmph, your 'test' in that name is a generic verb "we check that...",
>> > which I think aligns better with the other test_foo functions.  When
>> > I suggested 'test_verbose', 'test' in that name was specifically
>> > meant to refer to the 'test' command.
>
> I actually meant "test" as a namespace to indicate it is part of the
> test suite (just like "test_seq" is not testing anything). I think that
> is why the names are so silly. We are using the "test" command in our
> "test" suite to "test" some conditions.
>
>> I like "verbose_test $foo = $bar" because it puts the word "test" next
>> to the condition, where the built-in command "test" would otherwise be.
>> 
>> We could even define a command
>> 
>> 	verbose () {
>> 		"$@" && return 0
>> 		echo >&2 "command failed: $*"
>> 		return 1
>> 	}
>> 
>> and use it like
>> 
>> 	verbose test $foo = $bar
>
> I kind of like this. It is easy to see which shell command is being
> invoked, and it would extend naturally to other silent commands.
>
>> Somehow I feel like I'm reinventing something that must already exist...
>
> Yes, we're basically reinventing "set -x" here, with the caveat that we
> only _really_ care about showing failed commands. The problem with "set
> -x" is that it also wants to apply itself to the test harness itself, so
> you end up with a lot of cruft.

As you have done, I've done my share of running tests under "sh -x",
and I agree that it gives too much noise. Which is almost impossible
to read through without a lot of patience, but at least it contains
everything we could ask, short of running a specific step under gdb.

The "verbose" thing that reports only when the expectation is violated
cuts down the cruft (so does your original test_cond/verbose_test),
so it may make it easier than the bare-metal "sh -x".

But it may cut down a bit too much.  Often in a test that consists
of multiple commands chained together with && inside a single
test_expect_success, what leads to the eventual unsatisfied
expectation is an earlier step that succeeds in the sense that it
satisfies the expectation of that step (e.g. "git branch foo &&" and
we only check it did not exit with non-zero status) but did not
actually do what we wanted it to do (e.g. that "git branch" did not
create a new branch 'foo' but created 'refs/foo' by mistake), and
then a later step is tripped by the unsatisified expectation that
was not explicitly tested (e.g. after that "git checkout foo" would
not quite fail but instead of checking out a branch to build upon,
it detaches the HEAD at that commit, because the earlier "git branch"
was faulty but we did not notice it).

So I dunno.  For harder cases we always have to resort to "sh -x",
but "verbose" thing may still help easier cases, just like the use
of test_cmp instead of cmp is helping us while viewing output from
running test with the "-v" option today, and that would be a good
enough improvement.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-08 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-03 20:20 [PATCH 0/16] make prune mtime-checking more careful Jeff King
2014-10-03 20:21 ` [PATCH 01/16] foreach_alt_odb: propagate return value from callback Jeff King
2014-10-03 22:55   ` René Scharfe
2014-10-04  0:31     ` Jeff King
2014-10-03 20:22 ` [PATCH 02/16] isxdigit: cast input to unsigned char Jeff King
2014-10-03 20:22 ` [PATCH 03/16] object_array: factor out slopbuf-freeing logic Jeff King
2014-10-07 11:25   ` Michael Haggerty
2014-10-08  7:36     ` Jeff King
2014-10-08  8:40       ` Michael Haggerty
2014-10-08  8:55         ` Jeff King
2014-10-03 20:22 ` [PATCH 04/16] object_array: add a "clear" function Jeff King
2014-10-03 20:23 ` [PATCH 05/16] clean up name allocation in prepare_revision_walk Jeff King
2014-10-03 20:24 ` [PATCH 06/16] reachable: clear pending array after walking it Jeff King
2014-10-03 20:25 ` [PATCH 07/16] t5304: use test_path_is_* instead of "test -f" Jeff King
2014-10-03 22:12   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-03 20:27 ` [PATCH 08/16] t5304: use helper to report failure of "test foo = bar" Jeff King
2014-10-03 22:17   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-04  0:13     ` Jeff King
2014-10-07 13:21   ` Michael Haggerty
2014-10-07 17:29     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-07 20:18       ` Jeff King
2014-10-07 20:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-07 21:29           ` Jeff King
2014-10-07 21:53             ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-07 22:17               ` Michael Haggerty
2014-10-08  1:13                 ` Jeff King
2014-10-08 16:58                   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2014-10-07 21:16         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-03 20:29 ` [PATCH 09/16] prune: factor out loose-object directory traversal Jeff King
2014-10-03 22:19   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-04  0:24     ` Jeff King
2014-10-07 14:07   ` Michael Haggerty
2014-10-08  7:33     ` Jeff King
2014-10-03 20:31 ` [PATCH 10/16] count-objects: do not use xsize_t when counting object size Jeff King
2014-10-03 20:31 ` [PATCH 11/16] count-objects: use for_each_loose_file_in_objdir Jeff King
2014-10-03 20:32 ` [PATCH 12/16] sha1_file: add for_each iterators for loose and packed objects Jeff King
2014-10-05  8:15   ` René Scharfe
2014-10-05 10:47     ` Ramsay Jones
2014-10-03 20:39 ` [PATCH 13/16] prune: keep objects reachable from recent objects Jeff King
2014-10-03 21:47   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-04  0:09     ` Jeff King
2014-10-04  0:30     ` Jeff King
2014-10-04  3:04       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-07 16:29   ` Michael Haggerty
2014-10-08  7:19     ` Jeff King
2014-10-08 10:37       ` Michael Haggerty
2014-10-03 20:39 ` [PATCH 14/16] pack-objects: refactor unpack-unreachable expiration check Jeff King
2014-10-03 20:40 ` [PATCH 15/16] pack-objects: match prune logic for discarding objects Jeff King
2014-10-03 20:41 ` [PATCH 16/16] write_sha1_file: freshen existing objects Jeff King
2014-10-03 21:29   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-04  0:01     ` Jeff King
2014-10-05  9:12   ` René Scharfe
2014-10-03 22:20 ` [PATCH 0/16] make prune mtime-checking more careful Junio C Hamano
2014-10-04 22:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-05  9:19   ` René Scharfe
2014-10-06  1:42   ` Jeff King
2014-10-08  8:31     ` Jeff King
2014-10-08 17:03       ` Junio C Hamano

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