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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: Andy Koppe <andy.koppe@gmail.com>,
	 git@vger.kernel.org,  Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
	 Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] doc: glossary: add root ref and clarify pseudorefs
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2026 10:30:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqecd1939a.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aunFqykTV0QHCmV3@pks.im> (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Tue, 3 Nov 2026 12:29:47 +0100")

Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:

> I'm still not entirely convinced by this change, as it only focusses on
> the difference in storage. How about this instead:
>
>     [[def_pseudoref]]pseudoref::
>         A name that can be used like a <<def_ref,ref>> to refer to an
>         <<def_object,object>>, but that has different semantics: it can
>         record more than one object ID and may carry additional metadata.
>         In contrast to root refs, pseudorefs are therefore not stored or
>         handled by the ref backend. They can be passed to commands like
>         linkgit:git-log[1] or linkgit:git-diff[1], but cannot be written
>         by linkgit:git-update-ref[1] or listed by
>         linkgit:git-for-each-ref[1].

Between the two I would prefer yours.  I would replace "different"
with "additional", because a pseudoref can be used as the name of
the first object it contains in a fully compatible way as any other
refs, I want to avoid "different" that implies "there are additional
things it can do but there are things it cannot do" Venn diagram.

Then replace "carry additional" with "carry extra", just to avoid
repetitions of "additional" due to the earlier change.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-03 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-22 21:28 [PATCH 0/5] root refs vs pseudorefs Andy Koppe
2026-10-22 21:28 ` [PATCH 1/5] doc: glossary: add root ref and clarify pseudorefs Andy Koppe
2026-10-22 22:07   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-23  7:41   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-11-01 23:18     ` Andy Koppe
2026-10-22 21:28 ` [PATCH 2/5] doc: glossary: update per-worktree refs Andy Koppe
2026-10-23  7:41   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-11-01 23:26     ` Andy Koppe
2026-10-22 21:28 ` [PATCH 3/5] doc: stop calling root refs pseudorefs Andy Koppe
2026-10-23  7:41   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-11-01 23:44     ` Andy Koppe
2026-10-22 21:28 ` [PATCH 4/5] refs: " Andy Koppe
2026-10-23  7:41   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-11-01 23:46     ` Andy Koppe
2026-10-22 21:28 ` [PATCH 5/5] t: " Andy Koppe
2026-10-22 22:18 ` [PATCH 0/5] root refs vs pseudorefs Junio C Hamano
2026-10-23 13:21 ` Julia Evans
2026-11-01 23:07   ` Andy Koppe
2026-11-01 23:03 ` [PATCH v2 " Andy Koppe
2026-11-02 18:19   ` Julia Evans
2026-11-02 19:47     ` Andy Koppe
2026-11-02 21:00       ` Julia Evans
2026-11-02 22:19         ` Andy Koppe
2026-11-03 14:36           ` Julia Evans
2026-11-06 22:02             ` Andy Koppe
2026-11-02 21:49     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-01 23:03 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] doc: glossary: add root ref and clarify pseudorefs Andy Koppe
2026-11-03 11:29   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-11-03 18:30     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2026-11-01 23:03 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] doc: glossary: update per-worktree refs Andy Koppe
2026-11-03 11:29   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-11-01 23:03 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] doc: stop calling root refs pseudorefs Andy Koppe
2026-11-03 11:30   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-11-01 23:03 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] refs: " Andy Koppe
2026-11-01 23:03 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] t: " Andy Koppe
2026-11-06 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] root refs vs pseudorefs Andy Koppe
2026-11-06 21:31   ` [PATCH v3 1/5] doc: glossary: add root ref and clarify pseudorefs Andy Koppe
2026-11-06 22:13     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-06 21:31   ` [PATCH v3 2/5] doc: glossary: update per-worktree refs Andy Koppe
2026-11-06 22:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-06 21:31   ` [PATCH v3 3/5] doc: stop calling root refs pseudorefs Andy Koppe
2026-11-06 23:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-06 21:31   ` [PATCH v3 4/5] refs: " Andy Koppe
2026-11-06 23:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-06 21:31   ` [PATCH v3 5/5] t: " Andy Koppe

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