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From: Tom Hughes <thh@cyberscience.com>
To: Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
Cc: "D. Bahi" <dbahi@enterasys.com>,
	Nicholas Nethercote <njn25@cam.ac.uk>,
	user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	valgrind-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Valgrind-users] Re: [uml-devel] Re: UML and valgrind
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 15:58:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yekacxbrlvi.fsf@audi.uk.cyberscience.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040804153541.GA7237@ccure.user-mode-linux.org> (Jeff Dike's message of "Wed, 4 Aug 2004 11:35:41 -0400")

In message <20040804153541.GA7237@ccure.user-mode-linux.org>
        Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com> wrote:

>> But how did you cope with the fact that valgrind doesn't protect it's
>> internal data structures in any way? You would have all sorts of
>> problems with two threads trying to access the same data.
>
> I think I was mistaken about this firing off another valgrind thread, for
> two reasons.  
>
> I remember being concerned about whether the process data was still
> present in its normal, not running under valgrind, form.  This would
> only be a problem if you were planning on running a non-valgrind
> thread in the same address space.

Even doing that (if it's still possible) is quite dangerous as
that thread could accidentally damage valgrind's environment.

> Second, the patch above looks like it extracts the client IP from
> valigrind's state and branches to it.  This would make the new
> thread a non-valgrind one.

That would imply that the newly created thread was left to run on
the real CPU rather than the simulated CPU. If that's the case then
I'm not that it is possible anymore - I know we had to take out the
stuff that allowed valgrind to switch back to the real CPU after
running a specified number of basic blocks because it could no longer
be made to work.

Tom

-- 
Tom Hughes (thh@cyberscience.com)
Software Engineer, Cyberscience Corporation
http://www.cyberscience.com/


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  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-04 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-08  4:13 [uml-devel] UML and valgrind Bahi, David
2004-08-03  2:47 ` [uml-devel] " D. Bahi
2004-08-03  5:17   ` Jeff Dike
2004-08-03  9:31     ` [Valgrind-users] " Nicholas Nethercote
2004-08-03 14:50       ` Jeff Dike
2004-08-03 14:31         ` Nicholas Nethercote
2004-08-03 17:50           ` Jeff Dike
2004-08-03 17:33             ` D. Bahi
2004-08-03 19:31               ` Jeff Dike
2004-08-03 20:12                 ` D. Bahi
2004-08-04  7:47                   ` Tom Hughes
2004-08-03 22:04                 ` Nicholas Nethercote
2004-08-04  7:52                 ` Tom Hughes
2004-08-04 15:10                   ` Jeff Dike
2004-08-04 15:35                   ` Jeff Dike
2004-08-04 14:58                     ` Tom Hughes [this message]
2004-08-04 18:00                       ` Jeff Dike
2004-08-04 17:57                         ` Tom Hughes
2004-08-04 21:02                           ` Jeff Dike
2004-08-05  9:28                             ` Nicholas Nethercote
2004-08-05 13:15                               ` D. Bahi
2004-08-05 15:24                               ` Jeff Dike
2004-08-03 19:40               ` Jeff Dike
2004-08-04  1:09               ` Nuno Silva
2004-08-04  2:47                 ` D. Bahi

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