Sound on Packard Bell V7900 (ALC260): where from here?

Sound on Packard Bell V7900 (ALC260): where from here?

[Andrea Gozzi]

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To the attention of ALSA Devel mailing list users.
--------


It's now been several months since I bought my Packard Bell V7900 laptop
but I was never able to hear any sound coming from its speakers.
I tried every ALSA release from 1.12 to the latest 1.14rc1 but without
any success.
I tried loading the kernel modules with every possible option
(hp,acer,fujitsu,..) but nothing from happened.The only useful result
was to get sound coming from a jack marked "Line In" when snd-hda-intel
is configured with 'model=test'.

Jonathan Woithe has been very helpful, I tried to explain to him as best
as I could all the ALSA configurations tested and what I got from them.
When I last heard from him he told me he believed that Packard Bell
implemented some sort of amplifier between the Realtek chipset and the
speakers.

It so seems to be a problem regarding only this particular model of
laptop from PB.
Since I don't have any experience dealing with this kind of situations
who should I ask for support?
Should I contact Packard Bell directly asking them for more information
and/or some datasheets?Should I ask Realtek?
Also, should I expect any help from them?


Thank you,

Andrea


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Re: Sound on Packard Bell V7900 (ALC260): where from here?

[Pongi]

Andrea Gozzi <andrea.gozzi <at> linuxrevolution.eu> writes:

> 
> To the attention of ALSA Devel mailing list users.
> --------
> 
> It's now been several months since I bought my Packard Bell V7900 laptop
> but I was never able to hear any sound coming from its speakers.
> I tried every ALSA release from 1.12 to the latest 1.14rc1 but without
> any success.
> I tried loading the kernel modules with every possible option
> (hp,acer,fujitsu,..) but nothing from happened.The only useful result
> was to get sound coming from a jack marked "Line In" when snd-hda-intel
> is configured with 'model=test'.
> 
> Jonathan Woithe has been very helpful, I tried to explain to him as best
> as I could all the ALSA configurations tested and what I got from them.
> When I last heard from him he told me he believed that Packard Bell
> implemented some sort of amplifier between the Realtek chipset and the
> speakers.
> 
> It so seems to be a problem regarding only this particular model of
> laptop from PB.
> Since I don't have any experience dealing with this kind of situations
> who should I ask for support?
> Should I contact Packard Bell directly asking them for more information
> and/or some datasheets?Should I ask Realtek?
> Also, should I expect any help from them?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Andrea
> 

I'm still looking for a solution of this problem, and I just spotted this lonely
request for help. I sadly noticed that no one has replied neither saying "you
should not have buyed such bulky laptop" or "oh, sweetie, let's see what can be
done for you". I'm still without sound, and still can't see where to look for
solutions.

Driver developers, I can't send my laptop in to you to explore the weirdness of
the snd-hda-intel/packardbell, but I can send you an invite to join a ssh
session pointing directly to my linuxbox. Is it feasible? In april, when I will
be finally graduated, and when I will reinstall Ubuntu (format for Feisty!)
there will be a peep hole in my firewall to let some serious developer
investigate my laptop.

Beware, hacker out there, my box will be perfectly clean, with no cc numbers,
passwords or something and after the session I'll format the hd again, to ensure
there's no harming code left on my laptux.

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Re: Sound on Packard Bell V7900 (ALC260): where from here?

[Tobin Davis]

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I can start looking at this next week, if you are available.  No need
for ssh yet.  Could you download
http://members.dsl-only.net/~tdavis/alsa-info.sh and email me directly
the output as an attachment?  Also include IM information and a possible
time schedule to contact you.

Tobin

On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 16:00 +0000, Pongi wrote:

> Andrea Gozzi <andrea.gozzi <at> linuxrevolution.eu> writes:
> 
> > 
> > To the attention of ALSA Devel mailing list users.
> > --------
> > 
> > It's now been several months since I bought my Packard Bell V7900 laptop
> > but I was never able to hear any sound coming from its speakers.
> > I tried every ALSA release from 1.12 to the latest 1.14rc1 but without
> > any success.
> > I tried loading the kernel modules with every possible option
> > (hp,acer,fujitsu,..) but nothing from happened.The only useful result
> > was to get sound coming from a jack marked "Line In" when snd-hda-intel
> > is configured with 'model=test'.
> > 
> > Jonathan Woithe has been very helpful, I tried to explain to him as best
> > as I could all the ALSA configurations tested and what I got from them.
> > When I last heard from him he told me he believed that Packard Bell
> > implemented some sort of amplifier between the Realtek chipset and the
> > speakers.
> > 
> > It so seems to be a problem regarding only this particular model of
> > laptop from PB.
> > Since I don't have any experience dealing with this kind of situations
> > who should I ask for support?
> > Should I contact Packard Bell directly asking them for more information
> > and/or some datasheets?Should I ask Realtek?
> > Also, should I expect any help from them?
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Andrea
> > 
> 
> I'm still looking for a solution of this problem, and I just spotted this lonely
> request for help. I sadly noticed that no one has replied neither saying "you
> should not have buyed such bulky laptop" or "oh, sweetie, let's see what can be
> done for you". I'm still without sound, and still can't see where to look for
> solutions.
> 
> Driver developers, I can't send my laptop in to you to explore the weirdness of
> the snd-hda-intel/packardbell, but I can send you an invite to join a ssh
> session pointing directly to my linuxbox. Is it feasible? In april, when I will
> be finally graduated, and when I will reinstall Ubuntu (format for Feisty!)
> there will be a peep hole in my firewall to let some serious developer
> investigate my laptop.
> 
> Beware, hacker out there, my box will be perfectly clean, with no cc numbers,
> passwords or something and after the session I'll format the hd again, to ensure
> there's no harming code left on my laptux.
> 
> .png
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Sound on Packard Bell V7900 (ALC260): where from here?

[David Friggens]

>> I'm still looking for a solution of this problem

I also have an ALC260 - on a (HP) Compaq Presario B1900. With the test 
model the sound is working through the microphone jack only (and with 
worse quality than Windows.

I asked on the list back in October and Jonathan Woithe sounded hopeful, 
but I haven't heard anything more.

> I can start looking at this next week, if you are available. 

Would it be possible and/or helpful to attack my machine at the same 
time, or would it likely be a separate problem to solve?

> Could you download alsa-info.sh and email me
> directly the output as an attachment?

I'll do this anyway in the hope that it's helpful.

Cheers
David

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Re: Sound on Packard Bell V7900 (ALC260): where from here?

[Jonathan Woithe]

Hi David

> I also have an ALC260 - on a (HP) Compaq Presario B1900. With the test 
> model the sound is working through the microphone jack only (and with 
> worse quality than Windows.
> 
> I asked on the list back in October and Jonathan Woithe sounded hopeful, 
> but I haven't heard anything more.

Hmm, sorry about that.  Around that time life got incredibly busy for a
number of reasons and I was dealing with 2 other ALC260 issues at the same
time (both of which we fixed).  Your issue must have dropped off my radar -
sorry.

We can pick up on your problem now if you like (although I'm still very
busy, at least I won't start confusing and merging different ALC260 things).

I guess the first thing to do is to try the latest version of ALSA -
1.0.14rc3 is out now.  There are many fixes in this version and it gives
us a known point of reference.

Give the "test" model a go again from scratch while playing a file and
see what you are able to discover.  In particular, operate the GPIO controls
and see if they do anything - on some HP laptops one or more of these need
to be "on" for sound to come out of various places (speaker, headphone jack,
etc).

Finally, could we have the output of

  cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0
  lspci
  lspci -nv

Thanks, and sorry once again that things went quiet in October.

Regards
  jonathan

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Re: Sound on Packard Bell V7900 (ALC260): where from here?

[David Friggens]

Hi Jonathan

> Hmm, sorry about that.  Your issue must have dropped
> off my radar - sorry.

That's fine. I should have come looking for further help earlier but it 
slipped off my radar somewhat too, as I'd managed to get at least some 
sound out of it.

> We can pick up on your problem now if you like

That would be great. Thanks.

> I guess the first thing to do is to try the latest version of ALSA -
> 1.0.14rc3 is out now.  There are many fixes in this version and it
> gives us a known point of reference.

OK I'll try that and report back off list.

Cheers
David

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Re: Sound on Packard Bell V7900 (ALC260): where from here?

[Andrea Gozzi]

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I will join in since I'm having the same troubles as David and Pongi.

I compiled latest alsa 14rc3 but nothing changed; I also tried evey
model for ALC260 configuration but still no sound.
In case you need it, my gtalk contact is "asgozzi".

Andrea


*alsa-info.sh output:


ALSA Version
------------

Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.14rc3.
Compiled on Mar  9 2007 for kernel 2.6.19.2-gnet_laptop (SMP).


Loaded ALSA modules
-------------------

snd_hda_intel


Soundcards recognised by ALSA
-----------------------------

 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
                      HDA Intel at 0x5c300000 irq 21


PCI Soundcards installed in the system
--------------------------------------

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1b.0 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 02)
        Subsystem: 1631:c017


HDA-Intel Codec information
---------------------------

Codec: Realtek ALC260
Address: 0
Vendor Id: 0x10ec0260
Subsystem Id: 0x16311635
Revision Id: 0x100400
Default PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x11: Stereo
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x211: Stereo Digital
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x04 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10011b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x23, stepsize=0x03, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80
0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
  PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0x6]: 16 20
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Connection: 7
     0x12* 0x13 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x0f 0x10
Node 0x05 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10011b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x23, stepsize=0x03, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80
0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
  PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0x6]: 16 20
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Connection: 8
     0x12* 0x13 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x07 0x0f 0x10
Node 0x06 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100391: Stereo Digital
  PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Connection: 1
     0x19
Node 0x07 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x23, nsteps=0x41, stepsize=0x03, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x41 0x41] [0x41 0x41] [0x41 0x41] [0x41 0x41] [0x41
0x41] [0x41 0x41] [0x41 0x41] [0x41 0x41]
  Connection: 8
     0x12 0x13 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x17 0x0f 0x10
Node 0x08 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x40 0x40]
  Connection: 2
     0x02 0x07
Node 0x09 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x40 0x40]
  Connection: 2
     0x02 0x07
Node 0x0a [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010e: Mono Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x80] [0x80]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x23, nsteps=0x41, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x41]
  Connection: 2
     0x02 0x07
Node 0x0b [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo
  Connection: 2
     0x08* 0x09
Node 0x0c [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo
  Connection: 2
     0x08* 0x09
Node 0x0d [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo
  Connection: 2
     0x08* 0x09
Node 0x0e [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo
  Connection: 2
     0x08* 0x09
Node 0x0f [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x081003f: IN OUT HP EAPD Detect
  Pin Default 0x01014110: [Jack] Line Out at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Green
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 1
     0x08
Node 0x10 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x081003f: IN OUT HP EAPD Detect
  Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 1
     0x09
Node 0x11 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40010c: Mono Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00]
  Pincap 0x0810: OUT
  Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 1
     0x0a
Node 0x12 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x08133f: IN OUT HP Detect
  Pin Default 0x01a19930: [Jack] Mic at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 1
     0x0b
Node 0x13 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x08133f: IN OUT HP Detect
  Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 1
     0x0c
Node 0x14 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x08133f: IN OUT HP Detect
  Pin Default 0x01813131: [Jack] Line In at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Blue
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 1
     0x0d
Node 0x15 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x08133f: IN OUT HP Detect
  Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 1
     0x0e
Node 0x16 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400001: Stereo
  Pincap 0x0820: IN
  Pin Default 0x99330132: [Fixed] CD at Int ATAPI
    Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown
  Pin-ctls: 0x00:
Node 0x17 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400000: Mono
  Pincap 0x0820: IN
  Pin Default 0x9983013e: [Fixed] Line In at Int ATAPI
    Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown
  Pin-ctls: 0x00:
Node 0x18 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400380: Mono Digital
  Pincap 0x0814: OUT Detect
  Pin Default 0x01454120: [Jack] SPDIF Out at Ext Rear
    Conn = Optical, Color = Green
  Pin-ctls: 0x00:
  Connection: 1
     0x03
Node 0x19 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400280: Mono Digital
  Pincap 0x0824: IN Detect
  Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
  Pin-ctls: 0x00:
Node 0x1a [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00040: Mono
Node 0x1b [Volume Knob Widget] wcaps 0x600080: Mono
Codec: Conexant ID 2bfa
Address: 1
Vendor Id: 0x14f12bfa
Subsystem Id: 0x14f10001
Revision Id: 0x90000


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Re: Sound on Packard Bell V7900 (ALC260): where from here?

[Rafal Maszkowski]

On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 08:18:15AM -0800, Tobin Davis wrote:
> I can start looking at this next week, if you are available.  No need
> for ssh yet.  Could you download
> http://members.dsl-only.net/~tdavis/alsa-info.sh and email me directly
> the output as an attachment?  Also include IM information and a possible
> time schedule to contact you.

My result: http://conf.icm.edu.pl/data/alsa-info.txt
Other information in files in http://conf.icm.edu.pl/data/
If you need newer versions I can update the contents. I can try to experiment
with newest hg version. SSH access is possible.

I struggle with Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Pro V3505 since January. The biggest
problem is mixer. Another is recording.

R.
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