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From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: pHilipp Zabel <philipp.zabel@gmail.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Eric Miao <eric.y.miao@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Daniel Ribeiro <drwyrm@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] ASoC: pxa-ssp: enhance I2S and add	Left_J support
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:38:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090608163835.GA14026@rakim.wolfsonmicro.main> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74d0deb30906080858m7dc52cfaxfbb6366c529fc0e2@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 05:58:54PM +0200, pHilipp Zabel wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Mark

> > OOI which MUA are you using?  I've noticed several people with this very
> > odd word wrapping the past day.

> This mail was sent with the Google Mail web interface.

Ah.  Why am I not surprised. :/

> > I'm inclined to go with sample here since it seems harder for the
> > machine drivers to get wrong but I've not really thought it through yet?

> I thought sample width is determined by the snd_pcm_hw_params. But
> maybe I'm mixing up alsa sample width vs sample width on the wire?

Essentially what we're doing here is providing a mechanism to specify a
separate wire format.

> I'm leaning towards set_frame_width because that's directly what I
> want to do: override pxa_ssp_hw_params' standard decision to use
> 32-bit frames for S16_LE stereo and set 16-bit frames instead.

Hrm.  Now I remember what you're doing - you're trying to essentially
send your stereo stream as mono data due to your hardware either having
a flip flop or an entertainingly non-standard CODEC which needs a frame
sync per sample rather than per frame.

> > OTOH I don't really see much difference between the two cases - it's
> > just an extra couple of parameters on the end of the call.

> Technically there isn't. It just seems much more obvious to me to
> write something like:
>     /* nonstandard: 16-bit frames, even for 2x 16-bit stereo */
>     if (params_format(params) == ..._S16_LE)
>         set_frame_size(16);

Thing is, I'd expect this would be just as likely to cause the CPU to
discard every other sample since it doesn't have enough clocks to clock
out a stereo sample in the frame.

It occurs to me that this is something that it might be better to work
around this with a user space plugin which rewrites the sample formats
on the way down to the driver so that it claims the stream is configured
as mono even if it's stereo :/  Not sure how practical that is or if
there's a sensible way to do that in kernel space.

> in the machine driver instead of:
>     /* nonstandard: 16-bit frames, even for 2x 16-bit stereo
>      * pxa_ssp_hw_params will check for TTSA==1
>      * and then set the frame size accordingly
>      */
>     set_tdm_slot(1,1);
> especially as I don't really need network mode at all.

Same issue with "it's a surprise it works" applies here.

That TDM configuration ought to disable network mode if the driver
doesn't need it.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-08 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-03 12:33 [PATCH 1/4] ASoC: pxa-ssp: enhance I2S and add Left_J support Eric Miao
2009-06-03 13:18 ` Daniel Mack
2009-06-03 14:22   ` Eric Miao
2009-06-03 14:23     ` Mark Brown
2009-06-03 14:24     ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]   ` <37b631400906040207o169abbc2ob33100879ac68911@mail.gmail.com>
2009-06-04  9:44     ` Paul Shen
2009-06-05 17:26       ` Daniel Mack
2009-06-05 22:47         ` Mark Brown
2009-06-04 12:36 ` Mark Brown
2009-06-04 13:12   ` Daniel Mack
2009-06-06  8:26 ` Daniel Ribeiro
2009-06-09  9:39   ` Paul Shen
2009-06-09  9:54     ` Daniel Mack
2009-06-09 10:10     ` Daniel Ribeiro
2009-06-06 20:12 ` Mark Brown
2009-06-08 12:12   ` pHilipp Zabel
2009-06-08 12:40     ` Mark Brown
2009-06-08 15:58       ` pHilipp Zabel
2009-06-08 16:25         ` Daniel Ribeiro
2009-06-08 16:38         ` Mark Brown [this message]
2009-06-08 17:18           ` pHilipp Zabel
2009-06-08 17:41             ` Mark Brown
2009-06-08 18:59               ` pHilipp Zabel
2009-06-08 16:03       ` Daniel Ribeiro
2009-06-08 16:53         ` Mark Brown
2009-06-08 17:26           ` Daniel Ribeiro
2009-06-08 18:06             ` Mark Brown
2009-06-08 20:52               ` Daniel Ribeiro
2009-06-09  9:39                 ` Eric Miao
2009-06-09  9:41                   ` Eric Miao
2009-06-09  9:58                   ` Mark Brown
2009-06-09 11:40                     ` pHilipp Zabel
2009-06-10 22:24                   ` Daniel Ribeiro
2009-06-11  9:00                     ` Mark Brown
2009-06-11 15:13                       ` Daniel Mack
2009-06-11 13:34                     ` Eric Miao
2009-06-11 14:36                       ` [RFC] I2S and LEFT_J (was: ASoC: pxa-ssp: enhance I2S and add Left_J support) Daniel Ribeiro
2009-06-15  8:45                         ` Eric Miao
2009-06-15 14:57                           ` Daniel Ribeiro
2009-06-15 15:04                             ` Mark Brown
2009-06-15 17:20                               ` Daniel Ribeiro
2009-06-15 17:40                                 ` Daniel Mack
2009-06-16  2:11                                   ` Daniel Ribeiro
2009-06-15 18:00                                 ` Mark Brown
2009-06-18  7:58                                 ` [RFC] I2S and LEFT_J Eric Miao
2009-06-18 12:30                                   ` Daniel Ribeiro
2009-06-22 22:14                                     ` Daniel Mack
2009-06-27  0:28                                       ` Daniel Ribeiro
2009-07-01 12:17                                         ` Daniel Mack
2009-06-08 21:07           ` [RFC] Auto setup TDM when needed. Add frame_width and rx/tx masks to set_tdm_slots Daniel Ribeiro
2009-06-09  9:10             ` Mark Brown
2009-06-08 14:13     ` [PATCH 1/4] ASoC: pxa-ssp: enhance I2S and add Left_J support Eric Miao
2009-06-08 15:06       ` Mark Brown

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