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From: Guennadi Liakhovetski <guennadi.liakhovetski@linux.intel.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Liam Girdwood <liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	sound-open-firmware@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] [RESEND] ASoC: SOF: preparatory patches
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 14:09:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200312130933.GD15167@ubuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200312121549.GB4038@sirena.org.uk>

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:15:49PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:45:37PM +0100, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:50:56PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote:
> 
> > > How does this relate to the virtio audio spec that's currently under
> > > review?
> 
> > The spec under discussion is only for simple audio virtualisation with fixed 
> > roles and topologies. With our approach guests get access to advanced DSP 
> > capabilities. The virtualisation approach under discussion can be a fallback 
> > for cases when no DSP has been detected on the host.
> 
> So they're orthogonal :/  Have you proposed your spec yet?
> 
> > > It looks to be doing something much lower level than that.
> > > I am concerned that this looks to be exposing DPCM as a virtio ABI,
> > > we're trying to replace it as an internal API never mind ABI.
> 
> > You mean that our approach works at the widget level, which is a part of the 
> > DPCM API? Well there is a translation layer between our ABI and DPCM. And by 
> > virtue of the same argument don't we already have DPCM as an ABI on the 
> > opposite side of SOF - in its IPC ABI? Largely this virtualisation approach 
> > doesn't add new interfaces, it re-uses the SOF IPC ABI, which is also one of 
> > its advantages.
> 
> Please bear in mind that the page you linked to is very high level and
> I've not seen the actual spec or anything.  The page and your mails both
> talk about DPCM so it sounds like that's a part of the interface.

Let me rebase my current stack and post it here, stay tuned :-)

Thanks
Guennadi

      reply	other threads:[~2020-03-12 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-09 17:07 [PATCH 0/3] [RESEND] ASoC: SOF: preparatory patches Guennadi Liakhovetski
2020-03-09 17:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] ASoC: (cosmetic) simplify dpcm_prune_paths() Guennadi Liakhovetski
2020-03-09 21:37   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-03-09 17:07 ` [PATCH 2/3] ASoC: add function parameters to enable forced path pruning Guennadi Liakhovetski
2020-03-09 21:48   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-03-10 12:45   ` Mark Brown
2020-03-11  7:41     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2020-03-11 12:25       ` Mark Brown
2020-03-11 12:36         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2020-03-11 12:41           ` Mark Brown
2020-03-11 13:26             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2020-03-09 17:07 ` [PATCH 3/3] ASoC: export DPCM runtime update functions Guennadi Liakhovetski
2020-03-09 21:54   ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-03-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 0/3] [RESEND] ASoC: SOF: preparatory patches Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-03-10 12:50   ` Mark Brown
2020-03-10 20:13     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-03-11 12:16       ` Mark Brown
2020-03-12 11:45     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2020-03-12 12:15       ` Mark Brown
2020-03-12 13:09         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski [this message]

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