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From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, amadeuszx.slawinski@linux.intel.com,
	hdegoede@redhat.com, broonie@kernel.org, tiwai@suse.com,
	perex@perex.cz
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 13/17] ASoC: SOF: Intel: Switch to new stream-format interface
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 09:01:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <389f2953-1463-34f1-b720-92af800aad5d@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fef42075-44f8-c897-c05a-180dd30f5b37@intel.com>



On 8/14/23 05:51, Cezary Rojewski wrote:
> On 2023-08-11 8:21 PM, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>> On 8/11/23 11:48, Cezary Rojewski wrote:
>>> To provide option for selecting different bit-per-sample than just the
>>> maximum one, use the new format calculation mechanism.
>>
>> Can you remind me what the issue is in selecting the maximum resolution?
>>
>> Isn't it a good thing to select the maximum resolution when possible so
>> as to provide more headroom and prevent clipping? Usually we try to make
>> sure the resolution becomes limited when we reach the analog parts. I am
>> not sure I see a compelling reason to reduce the resolution on the host
>> side.
> 
> Maximum resolution is still the default, nothing changes there.
> Moreover, new subformat options are not added to any driver apart from
> the avs-driver.

What's so special about this driver that it needs more capabilities for
a standard interface?

> The patchset provides _an option_ to change bits-per-sample. Right now
> there's no option to do that so the hardware - here, SDxFMT and PPLCxFMT
> - is not tested. We have enough recommended flows already. Frankly there
> is one for SDxFMT for the APL-based platforms (or BXT-based if one
> prefers that naming) present within snd_hda_intel and DSP drivers alike.
> 
>> I am also not sure what this patch actually changes, given that the
>> firmware actually converts everything to the full 32-bit resolution.
> 
> The issue does not concern firmware, so we leave firmware out of the
> discussion - this is purely about hardware capabilities.

I don't see how you can leave firmware aside, if the hardware
configuration is selected to be based on 24 bits and the firmware
generated 32 there's clearly a mismatch.

If this is saying that we are adding an option that will never be used,
then why bother?

Lost in space on this one.

>> I must be missing something on the problem statement.
>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>   sound/soc/sof/intel/hda-dai-ops.c | 5 +++--
>>>   1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/sound/soc/sof/intel/hda-dai-ops.c
>>> b/sound/soc/sof/intel/hda-dai-ops.c
>>> index f3513796c189..00703999e91b 100644
>>> --- a/sound/soc/sof/intel/hda-dai-ops.c
>>> +++ b/sound/soc/sof/intel/hda-dai-ops.c
>>> @@ -194,14 +194,15 @@ static unsigned int
>>> hda_calc_stream_format(struct snd_sof_dev *sdev,
>>>       struct snd_soc_dai *codec_dai = asoc_rtd_to_codec(rtd, 0);
>>>       unsigned int link_bps;
>>>       unsigned int format_val;
>>> +    unsigned int bps;
>>>         if (substream->stream == SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_PLAYBACK)
>>>           link_bps = codec_dai->driver->playback.sig_bits;
>>>       else
>>>           link_bps = codec_dai->driver->capture.sig_bits;
>>> +    bps = snd_hdac_stream_format_bps(params_format(params),
>>> SNDRV_PCM_SUBFORMAT_STD, link_bps);
>>
>> I can't say I fully understand the difference between 'bps' and
>> 'link_bps'. The naming is far from self-explanatory just by looking at
>> the code.
> 
> There's none. I just didn't reuse the 'link_bps' variable. I can reuse
> it if you like.
> 
>>> -    format_val = snd_hdac_calc_stream_format(params_rate(params),
>>> params_channels(params),
>>> -                         params_format(params), link_bps, 0);
>>> +    format_val = snd_hdac_stream_format(params_channels(params),
>>> bps, params_rate(params));
>>>         dev_dbg(sdev->dev, "format_val=%#x, rate=%d, ch=%d,
>>> format=%d\n", format_val,
>>>           params_rate(params), params_channels(params),
>>> params_format(params));

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-14 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-11 16:48 [RFC PATCH 00/17] ALSA/ASoC: hda: Address format selection limitations and ambiguity Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 01/17] ALSA: pcm: Introduce MSBITS subformat interface Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-14 14:35   ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-14 15:04     ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-22 15:03   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-22 15:07     ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-22 15:29       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-22 15:38         ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-22 19:03           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-23  8:11             ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-23  9:10               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-23  9:53                 ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-23 10:00                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-23 10:20                     ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2023-08-23 10:47                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-23 11:08                         ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-23 13:42                           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-23 16:29                             ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2023-08-23 17:42                               ` Kai Vehmanen
2023-08-24  7:31                               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-09-08 14:36                                 ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-09-11  7:35                                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-09-11  8:43                                     ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-09-11 15:45                                       ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-09-12 16:30                                         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-09-13  7:44                                           ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-09-13  8:06                                             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-08-22 15:30       ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 02/17] ALSA: pcm: Honor subformat when configuring substream Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 03/17] ALSA: hda: Honor subformat when querying PCMs Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 04/17] ASoC: pcm: Honor subformat when configuring runtime Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 05/17] ALSA: hda: Upgrade stream-format infrastructure Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-14 14:41   ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-14 14:47     ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-14 14:59       ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 06/17] ALSA: hda: Switch to new stream-format interface Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 07/17] ALSA: hda/hdmi: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 08/17] ALSA: hda/ca0132: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 09/17] ASoC: codecs: hda: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 10/17] ASoC: codecs: hdac_hda: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 11/17] ASoC: codecs: hdac_hdmi: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 12/17] ASoC: Intel Skylake: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 13/17] ASoC: SOF: Intel: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 18:21   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-08-14 10:51     ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-14 14:01       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2023-08-14 15:02         ` Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-14 17:02           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 14/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: " Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 15/17] ALSA: hda: Drop snd_hdac_calc_stream_format() Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 16/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Unhardcode HDAudio BE DAI drivers description Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-11 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 17/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Kill S24_LE in HDAudio streaming Cezary Rojewski
2023-08-21  7:49   ` Amadeusz Sławiński

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