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From: Abramo Bagnara <abramo@alsa-project.org>
To: Paul Davis <pbd@op.net>
Cc: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>, alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Re: About integer64
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 15:25:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CDA78CE.BE2D0F56@alsa-project.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200205091256.OAA26239@alsa.alsa-project.org

Paul Davis wrote:
> 
> >What I'm misunderstanding? I tend to interpret the former and the latter
> >statements in a contradictory way.
> 
> my reading of the "docs" (the Mac OS X driver and utilities) is that
> RME haven't figured out a way to truncate the 64 bit fixed point
> representation to a 32 bit integer using the Xilinx FPGA. they have
> figured out how to render it as a 64 bit integer. so, they do the math
> using a fixed point representation, then transform to 64 bit integer
> when storing it in the register. the final part of the transform is
> done by the host CPU, in our case up in user space since we can't do
> float math conveniently in the kernel.
> 
> does that make it clearer?

Not very much:
a) if 32 bit integer could be enough expressive, what's the problem to
truncate it in your driver?
b) if a 32 bit integer is not enough and a float is preferrable:
considered that an ieee754 floating point is in the form (1+man)*2^exp
what's the problem in converting it in your driver using ffs and some
shift?

With both way I don't see the two point you make:
1) why bother with signed vs unsigned
2) why use 64 bit integer

Of course if a 64 bit integer is the best way to represent/report the
value all is fine, but in this case I doubt that you don't have
available the 64th bit for the sign.

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       reply	other threads:[~2002-05-09 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200205091256.OAA26239@alsa.alsa-project.org>
2002-05-09 13:25 ` Abramo Bagnara [this message]
2002-05-09 13:40   ` Re: About integer64 Paul Davis
2002-05-09 13:56     ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-05-11 15:19     ` James Courtier-Dutton
2002-05-09 11:07 Paul Davis
2002-05-09 12:32 ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-05-09 12:57   ` Paul Davis

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