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From: James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.demon.co.uk>
To: Paul Davis <pbd@op.net>
Cc: Abramo Bagnara <abramo@alsa-project.org>,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
	alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Re: About integer64
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 16:19:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CDD367F.4060906@superbug.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200205091339.g49Dd8907029@post2.fast.net

Paul Davis wrote:

>>Not very much:
>>a) if 32 bit integer could be enough expressive, what's the problem to
>>truncate it in your driver?
>>    
>>
>
>if i knew that this was true, i would do so. i don't know that. the
>rms meters are the *only* registers on the h-dsp that are 64 bit, so i
>assume there is some reason for this.
>
>  
>
>>b) if a 32 bit integer is not enough and a float is preferrable:
>>considered that an ieee754 floating point is in the form (1+man)*2^exp
>>what's the problem in converting it in your driver using ffs and some
>>shift?
>>    
>>
>
>if the lkml crew see us using floating point in any form in the
>kernel, we will attract complaints, even if we use integer operations
>to do so. i am firmly convinced of this.
>
>  
>
>>With both way I don't see the two point you make:
>>1) why bother with signed vs unsigned
>>    
>>
>
>for purity abramo! for purity!
>
>  
>
>>2) why use 64 bit integer
>>
>>Of course if a 64 bit integer is the best way to represent/report the
>>value all is fine, but in this case I doubt that you don't have
>>available the 64th bit for the sign.
>>    
>>
>
>that seems likely to me also. i suspect we have somewhere between 32
>and 64 bits of information. 
>
>i didn't say that i conclusively needed the sign bit - i was noting
>that the current API doesn't make unsigned values possible.
>
>  
>
What is wrong with useing floats in the alsa-lib, and then casting them 
to uint64 for all calls to the kernel.
That way, the kernel only ever sees a uint64, but the application sees a 
nice float.

Cheers
James





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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-05-11 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200205091256.OAA26239@alsa.alsa-project.org>
2002-05-09 13:25 ` Re: About integer64 Abramo Bagnara
2002-05-09 13:40   ` Paul Davis
2002-05-09 13:56     ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-05-11 15:19     ` James Courtier-Dutton [this message]
2002-05-09 11:07 Paul Davis
2002-05-09 12:32 ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-05-09 12:57   ` Paul Davis

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