A7N8X Deluxe - Alsa Support???

A7N8X Deluxe - Alsa Support???

[Mark Knecht]

Hi,
   Is there any Alsa support for the sound chips used on the Asus A7N8X
Deluxe MB? I Do not see anything on the sound card matrix page.

   If there is support, what works and what doesn't? IS it stable? VERY
STABLE?I'm building this machine for my dad and don't want to mess with
it after I set it up.

>From the Asus page:

Audio RealtekR ALC650 6CH w/built in HP amplifier
Integrated APU(Audio Processor Unit) SoundStorm?/ DolbyR Digital (AC-3)
Encoder	

Cheers,
Mark



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Re: A7N8X Deluxe - Alsa Support???

[James Courtier-Dutton]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi,
>    Is there any Alsa support for the sound chips used on the Asus A7N8X
> Deluxe MB? I Do not see anything on the sound card matrix page.
> 
>    If there is support, what works and what doesn't? IS it stable? VERY
> STABLE?I'm building this machine for my dad and don't want to mess with
> it after I set it up.
> 
>>From the Asus page:
> 
> Audio RealtekR ALC650 6CH w/built in HP amplifier
> Integrated APU(Audio Processor Unit) SoundStorm?/ DolbyR Digital (AC-3)
> Encoder	
> 
> Cheers,
> Mark
> 
Send me the output of: -
lspci -n |grep "Class 0401"


And then we can tell you if alsa supports it or not yet.



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Re: A7N8X Deluxe - Alsa Support???

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 14:58, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:

> > 
> Send me the output of: -
> lspci -n |grep "Class 0401"
> 
> 
> And then we can tell you if alsa supports it or not yet.
> 

So you're suggsting that I spend $500, bring up a machine, and THEN find
out if there's Alsa support?

I don't think so!

I'm looking at motherboards and deciding which one to get. Is ther some
issue here that you know about?

Thanks,
Mark



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Re: A7N8X Deluxe - Alsa Support???

[James Courtier-Dutton]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 14:58, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> 
> 
>>Send me the output of: -
>>lspci -n |grep "Class 0401"
>>
>>
>>And then we can tell you if alsa supports it or not yet.
>>
> 
> 
> So you're suggsting that I spend $500, bring up a machine, and THEN find
> out if there's Alsa support?
> 
> I don't think so!
> 
> I'm looking at motherboards and deciding which one to get. Is ther some
> issue here that you know about?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
> 
I see, I thought you had the machine already, and wanted get it working 
with linux. If you have not brought the motherboard yet, I would advise 
you to purchase one with Intel Chips on it. At least we have the 
Datasheets for all those.

Cheers
James



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Re: A7N8X Deluxe - Alsa Support???

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 17:02, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:

> > 
> I see, I thought you had the machine already, and wanted get it working 
> with linux. If you have not brought the motherboard yet, I would advise 
> you to purchase one with Intel Chips on it. At least we have the 
> Datasheets for all those.
> 
> Cheers
> James
> 

Thanks James. I'll keep that in mind. 

I guess you are answering my question in the negative? Alsa does not
today support the Realtek chips on this motherboard?

Thanks,
Mark



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Re: A7N8X Deluxe - Alsa Support???

[James Courtier-Dutton]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 17:02, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> 
> 
>>I see, I thought you had the machine already, and wanted get it working 
>>with linux. If you have not brought the motherboard yet, I would advise 
>>you to purchase one with Intel Chips on it. At least we have the 
>>Datasheets for all those.
>>
>>Cheers
>>James
>>
> 
> 
> Thanks James. I'll keep that in mind. 
> 
> I guess you are answering my question in the negative? Alsa does not
> today support the Realtek chips on this motherboard?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
alsa supports those chips, but I am not sure how reliable they are. I 
have never used them. I have seen a lot of IRQ problems (E.g. lost IRQs) 
with VIA chipsets lately, mainly due to linux not being able to program 
the VIA chipsets with the correct IRQ infomation.
If you can get reliable interrupts with that Motherboard, the alsa 
driver will work well.

Cheers
James




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Re: A7N8X Deluxe - Alsa Support???

[p z oooo]

Hi,

Realtek ALC650 is supported - but this is only analog part of sound 
system, you need second part working - and this is soundstorm. But 
Soundstorm is not supported very well. (Maybe i810 module is working 
with it - I don't know, if yes, then only basic functions are 
supported - no dolby digital encoding, no hardware mixing, maybe not 
working at all)

Peter Zubaj



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Re: A7N8X Deluxe - Alsa Support???

[p z oooo]

>Good luck.

>When I told them my nForce board supported hardware mixing, based 
upon
>nVidia's documentation, I was told, flat out, I was wrong...

>I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I think it was easy 
for
>them to patch up the i810 module to support the nForce, and that
>driver's current architecture doesn't allow for advanced features 
like
>hardware mixing.

>The A7N8X, IIRC, uses the nForce2 chip, which uses the same driver, 
so
>you're likely as SOL as I was.

>Sorry.

>I hope you have better luck with the devs than I did, though.

>Rob

This is not fault of ALSA developers, this is fault of NVIDIA which 
not release datasheets for their chips. This is becase many firms 
lying customers and instead selling chips there are selling software 
drivers (which are mostly free in linux) maybe this is case of 
NVIDIA. I personally don't trust NVIDIA.

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Re: A7N8X Deluxe - Alsa Support???

[James Courtier-Dutton]

p z oooo wrote:
>>Good luck.
> 
> 
>>When I told them my nForce board supported hardware mixing, based 
> 
> upon
> 
>>nVidia's documentation, I was told, flat out, I was wrong...
> 
> 
>>I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I think it was easy 
> 
> for
> 
>>them to patch up the i810 module to support the nForce, and that
>>driver's current architecture doesn't allow for advanced features 
> 
> like
> 
>>hardware mixing.
> 
> 
>>The A7N8X, IIRC, uses the nForce2 chip, which uses the same driver, 
> 
> so
> 
>>you're likely as SOL as I was.
> 
> 
>>Sorry.
> 
> 
>>I hope you have better luck with the devs than I did, though.
> 
> 
>>Rob
> 
> 
> This is not fault of ALSA developers, this is fault of NVIDIA which 
> not release datasheets for their chips. This is becase many firms 
> lying customers and instead selling chips there are selling software 
> drivers (which are mostly free in linux) maybe this is case of 
> NVIDIA. I personally don't trust NVIDIA.
> 
> Peter Zubaj
> 
> 

The nforce motherboards actually have 2 audio PCI devices. One is the 
codec controller, which uses the alsa snd-intel8x0. It works ok in linux 
apparently, but I am not sure about whether it has multiopen/hardware 
mixing features or not as I don't own one to test.
The second audio PCI device on nforce motherboards is an Audio DSP, and 
we have no datasheets for this Audio chip, so cannot support the fancy 
realtime hardware based audio effects it may or may not be able to do.

Cheers
James



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Re: A7N8X Deluxe - Alsa Support???

[Thierry Vignaud]

James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.demon.co.uk> writes:

> The nforce motherboards actually have 2 audio PCI devices. One is
> the codec controller, which uses the alsa snd-intel8x0. It works ok
> in linux apparently, but I am not sure about whether it has
> multiopen/hardware mixing features or not as I don't own one to
> test.

on nforce2, it has not



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