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* UCM {Supported,Conflicting}Device confusion
@ 2013-05-29 10:55 Juho Hämäläinen
  2013-05-29 15:12 ` Stephen Warren
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Juho Hämäläinen @ 2013-05-29 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

Hello,

Firstly as a sidenote, Supported/Conflicting is checked only one-way, if 
say devices A and B are enabled and say B has ConflictingDevice "C", and 
device C doesn't list anything, enabling of C is possible (and after 
that disabling C is not possible before B is disabled first).

Now, looking at the way SupportedDevice and ConflictingDevice are 
implemented in ucm and I came to following conclusion:

If no SupportedDevice or ConflictingDevice: All devices and combinations 
are compatible, so implicit "SupportedDevice ALL".

If SupportedDevice is listed: Device can be enabled as long as at least 
one enabled device is in SupportedDevice list.

If ConflictingDevice is listed: Device can be enabled if none of active 
devices are in ConflictingDevice list (noting aforementioned limit in 
checking this)

This is at least how I figured all combinations of multiple devices can 
be defined with only zero or one either SupportedDevice or 
ConflictingDevice entry per device.

Did I understand this right?

-- 
juho

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* Re: UCM {Supported,Conflicting}Device confusion
  2013-05-29 10:55 UCM {Supported,Conflicting}Device confusion Juho Hämäläinen
@ 2013-05-29 15:12 ` Stephen Warren
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Warren @ 2013-05-29 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Juho Hämäläinen; +Cc: alsa-devel

On 05/29/2013 04:55 AM, Juho Hämäläinen wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Firstly as a sidenote, Supported/Conflicting is checked only one-way, if
> say devices A and B are enabled and say B has ConflictingDevice "C", and
> device C doesn't list anything, enabling of C is possible (and after
> that disabling C is not possible before B is disabled first).

It's been a long time since I touched the ConflictingDevice stuff, but
IIRC the idea was that every device would include a complete list of
Supported/Conflicting Devices, so there was only a need to check "one way".

> Now, looking at the way SupportedDevice and ConflictingDevice are
> implemented in ucm and I came to following conclusion:
> 
> If no SupportedDevice or ConflictingDevice: All devices and combinations
> are compatible, so implicit "SupportedDevice ALL".
> 
> If SupportedDevice is listed: Device can be enabled as long as at least
> one enabled device is in SupportedDevice list.
> 
> If ConflictingDevice is listed: Device can be enabled if none of active
> devices are in ConflictingDevice list (noting aforementioned limit in
> checking this)
> 
> This is at least how I figured all combinations of multiple devices can
> be defined with only zero or one either SupportedDevice or
> ConflictingDevice entry per device.
> 
> Did I understand this right?

That sounds about right, from my rusty memory.

Oh, the commit log specifies the behaviour:

>     UCM: Implement ConflictingDevices, add device list to devices
>     
>     Wherever SupportedDevice can appear, also allow ConflictingDevice. Only
>     one or the other (or neither) may be specified. When neither is
>     specified, allow anything. Sometimes, listing ConflictingDevices may
>     result in a shorter list than explicitly listing all SupportedDevices.
>     
>     Add support for SupportedDevice and ConflictingDevice to SectionDevice.
>     This allows representing devices which are mutually exclusive, e.g. due
>     to a mux that switches between capturing from two different microphones,
>     without the possibility of mixing.
>     
>     Enhance is_modifier_supported to allow ignoring SupportedDevice and
>     ConflictingDevice. This is useful when querying values from a
>     SectionModifier; there's no reason we shouldn't be able to query values
>     just because the current configuration would prevent enabling that
>     device. The new is_device_supported is implemented similarly.
>     
>     Enhance switch_device to remove the old device from the current device
>     list before querying for the new device, and add it back immediately
>     afterwards. This allows the query for the new device to ignore any
>     conflicts caused solely by the old device.

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