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From: Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: ffado-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 21/30] ALSA: oxfw: Change the way to name card
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 23:19:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <547F1C09.5010103@sakamocchi.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hr3wi8sfk.wl-tiwai@suse.de>

Sorry to be late.

On Dec 2 2014 15:41, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> You see now that you're breaking user's setup, don't you?
>>> This is another reason why you shouldn't change the short name
>>> string.
>>
>> In this case, it depends on the estimated number of actual users for 
>> this device.
> 
> No.  The number doesn't matter unless it's proved to be really no
> regression.
> 
>> At least, snd-firewire-speakers cannot handle this device 
>> correctly, while there're no bug reports, for 4 years. I think this is 
>> an evidence of few users.
> 
> Did you get reports that the name hw:Speaker is bad, too?
> If not, why do you insist to "fix" this at all?  It's just because you
> feel so -- which is no objective measurement, either.

Not. Just depending on my feeling.

>> ...although havind said so, it's not my favorite to spend more time to 
>> such a small things, instead of more important things. I'll keep the 
>> naming rule what it was in next patchset.
> 
> There is no more important things than fixing a regression.
> 
> Just fix it for the next patchset, or patches won't be accepted.
> That's so simple.
> 
> I'm giving a strong word here because you might miss the point: in
> such a rewrite, the primary item you have to care is to avoid
> regressions.  Supporting other devices, the cleanness of the code, or
> even the correctness of the code, is hence in the second place.

I'm sure.

This weekend, I'll post the next patchset. I hope it's the last one for
OXFW 970/971.


Regards

Takashi Sakamoto
o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp

  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-03 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-28 15:59 [PATCH 00/30 v3] ALSA: Enhancement for existed FireWire drivers Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 01/30] ALSA: dice: suppress checkpatch.pl warnings Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 02/30] ALSA: dice: Rename structure and its members Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 03/30] ALSA: dice: Move file to its own directory Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 04/30] ALSA: dice: Split transaction functionality into a file Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 05/30] ALSA: dice: Split stream " Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 06/30] ALSA: dice: Split PCM " Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 07/30] ALSA: dice: Split hwdep " Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 08/30] ALSA: dice: Split proc interface " Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 09/30] ALSA: dice: Add new functions for constraints of PCM parameters Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 10/30] ALSA: dice: Change the way to start stream Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 11/30] ALSA: dice: Add support for duplex streams with synchronization Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 12/30] ALSA: dice: Support for non SYT-Match sampling clock source mode Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 13/30] ALSA: dice: Add support for capturing PCM samples Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 14/30] ALSA: dice: Add support for MIDI capture/playback Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 15/30] ALSA: dice: remove experimental state Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 16/30] ALSA: speakers: Rename to oxfw and rename some members Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 17/30] ALSA: oxfw: Move to its own directory Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 18/30] ALSA: oxfw: Split stream functionality to a new file and add a header file Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 19/30] ALSA: oxfw: Split PCM functionality to a new file Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 20/30] ALSA: oxfw: Split control " Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 21/30] ALSA: oxfw: Change the way to name card Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-29 19:37   ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-30  4:33     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-30  8:31       ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-30 23:19         ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-12-01  8:41           ` Takashi Iwai
2014-12-01 11:21             ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-12-01 15:05               ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-12-01 15:21                 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-12-02  6:17                   ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-12-02  6:41                     ` Takashi Iwai
2014-12-03 14:19                       ` Takashi Sakamoto [this message]
2014-12-01 14:58             ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-12-01 15:22               ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 22/30] ALSA: oxfw: Add support for AV/C stream format command to get/set supported stream formation Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 23/30] ALSA: oxfw: Change the way to make PCM rules/constraints Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 24/30] ALSA: oxfw: Add proc interface for debugging purpose Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 25/30] ALSA: oxfw: Change the way to start stream Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 26/30] ALSA: oxfw: Add support for Behringer/Mackie devices Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 27/30] ALSA: oxfw: Add support AMDTP in-stream Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 28/30] ALSA: oxfw: add support for capturing PCM samples Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 29/30] ALSA: oxfw: Add support for capture/playback MIDI messages Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 15:59 ` [PATCH 30/30] ALSA: oxfw: Add hwdep interface Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-28 16:03 ` [PATCH alsa-lib] hwdep: add OXFW driver support Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-29 19:35 ` [PATCH 00/30 v3] ALSA: Enhancement for existed FireWire drivers Takashi Iwai
2014-11-30  3:21   ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-11-30  8:35     ` Takashi Iwai

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