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From: Robin Gareus <robin@gareus.org>
To: Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
Cc: tiwai@suse.de, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, clemens@ladisch.de,
	ffado-devel@lists.sf.net, Damien Zammit <damien.zammit@gmail.com>
Subject: firewire mixer interface -- was Re: [PATCH 11/11] ALSA: digi00x: apply double-oh-three algorism to multiplex PCM samples
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 13:05:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <550C0CFC.4060404@gareus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <550B51BC.80506@sakamocchi.jp>

On 03/19/2015 11:46 PM, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:

Hi Takashi

Thanks for elaborating.

[..]

> For example, to control the clock selector of Digi 002/003 family, we
> just execute this command with firewire-request.
> 
> $ ./firewire-request /dev/fw1 write 0xffffe0000118 0x0000000[0|1|2|3]

Yes, that's what I was asking about. Can one safely write raw control
messages to /dev/fw* without interfering with ongoing streaming?


Instead interfacing via established protocols /dev/snd/control* or
rather libasound's snd_mixer_t seems like a no-brainer to me.

Are there any control elements on common 1394 devices that cannot be
properly exposed using existing infrastructure?

> On the other hand, IEEE 1394 bus-connected sound devices implements its
> own way to tell their control capabilities and model-specific way to
> perform control. Thus we should prepare for model-specific parsers. The
> idea to include these parsers into kernel-space increases maintaining
> efforts.

Agreed. Most of the heavy lifting should probably be done by libasound.

> In an aspect of user experience, I cannot find any differences between
> using alsamixer (or amixer) and using specific-application.

Uhm. It's a huge difference. There is a whole lot of existing
infrastructure: from Sys-V init.d and/or SystemD save/restore, dbus
hooks, existing mixer GUIs and application integration, not to mention
various language bindings (eg pyalsa).

Linux Audio is already fragmented enough as it stands, adding yet
another interface/toolchain won't help. One might just as well continue
to use ffado. I was under the impression that the whole point of moving
1394 audio into the kernel was to allow seamless integration with the
rest of ALSA.

2c,
robin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-20 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-15 16:00 [RFC][PATCH 00/11] digi00x: new driver for Digidesign 002/003 family Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-15 16:00 ` [PATCH 01/11] ALSA: digi00x: add skelton for Digi 002/003 device driver Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-15 16:01 ` [PATCH 02/11] ALSA: digi00x: add streaming functionality Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-15 16:01 ` [PATCH 03/11] ALSA: digi00x: add proc node for clock status Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-15 16:01 ` [PATCH 04/11] ALSA: digi00x: add PCM functionality Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-15 16:01 ` [PATCH 05/11] ALSA: digi00x: add MIDI functionality Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-15 16:01 ` [PATCH 06/11] ALSA: digi00x: add hwdep interface Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-15 16:01 ` [PATCH 07/11] ALSA: digi00x: support unknown asynchronous message Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-15 16:01 ` [PATCH 08/11] ALSA: digi00x: support MIDI ports for device control Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-15 16:01 ` [PATCH 09/11] ALSA: firewire-lib: allows to implement external MIDI callback function Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-15 16:01 ` [PATCH 10/11] digi00x: improve MIDI capture/playback Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-15 16:01 ` [PATCH 11/11] ALSA: digi00x: apply double-oh-three algorism to multiplex PCM samples Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-16 11:39   ` Damien Zammit
2015-03-16 13:24     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-16 14:25   ` Robin Gareus
2015-03-16 16:25     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-16 17:13       ` Robin Gareus
2015-03-16 22:47         ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-17 13:37           ` Robin Gareus
2015-03-17 13:49             ` Damien Zammit
2015-03-18  1:06               ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-19  5:18                 ` Damien Zammit
2015-03-19 13:59                 ` Robin Gareus
2015-03-19 22:46                   ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-19 22:51                     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-20 12:05                     ` Robin Gareus [this message]
2015-03-20 13:00                       ` firewire mixer interface -- was " Clemens Ladisch
2015-03-20 13:25                       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-20 13:35                         ` Takashi Iwai
2015-03-20 13:51                           ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-20 14:13                             ` Takashi Iwai
2015-03-20 14:45                               ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-20 15:01                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-03-21  5:59                                   ` Damien Zammit
2015-03-22  2:55                                     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-03-22  5:56                                       ` [FFADO-devel] " Jonathan Woithe
2015-03-24  3:15                                       ` Robin Gareus
2015-03-20 13:55                         ` Damien Zammit
2015-03-20 14:07                           ` Clemens Ladisch
2015-03-22  6:11                       ` [FFADO-devel] " Jonathan Woithe

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