From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <patrakov@gmail.com>
To: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>,
Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
Arun Raghavan <arun@accosted.net>,
"alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
Tanu Kaskinen <tanu.kaskinen@linux.intel.com>,
David Henningsson <david.henningsson@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: PulseAudio and SNDRV_PCM_INFO_BATCH
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 22:58:42 +0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <558EE452.4010501@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <558EDA4F.5030309@ladisch.de>
27.06.2015 22:15, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
>> 15.06.2015 13:03, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
>>> So SNDRV_PCM_INFO_BLOCK_TRANSFER is mainly important for rewind handling
>>> and devices with that flag set might need additional headroom since the
>>> data up to one period after the pointer position has already been copied
>>> to the dedicated memory and hence can no longer be overwritten.
>>
>> In kernel sources, sound/pci/hda/hda_controller.c mentions
>> SNDRV_PCM_INFO_BLOCK_TRANSFER. However, sub-period rewinds work fine
>> on this driver, and the avail granularity is something like 64 bytes.
>
> HDA is a very typical PCI controller; if this flag were correct here,
> pretty much _every_ driver would need it.
Well, there are more PCI drivers with this flag than without it. So it
looks like a "typical error".
aep@aep-haswell /usr/src/linux/sound $ grep -l
SNDRV_PCM_INFO_BLOCK_TRANSFER `grep -rl SNDRV_PCM_INFO_MMAP_VALID pci` |
wc -l
48
aep@aep-haswell /usr/src/linux/sound $ grep -L
SNDRV_PCM_INFO_BLOCK_TRANSFER `grep -rl SNDRV_PCM_INFO_MMAP_VALID pci` |
wc -l
15
I guess I should write a program that tests sub-period rewinds and post
it to the list.
> Some (older) HDA controllers have problems with position reporting
> (with workarounds in the drivers), but those problems are with the
> timing, not with the granularity.
>
> As far as I can see, snd-hda-intel should just drop this flag.
--
Alexander E. Patrakov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-27 17:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-12 12:29 PulseAudio and SNDRV_PCM_INFO_BATCH Arun Raghavan
2015-06-12 12:32 ` Arun Raghavan
2015-06-12 13:43 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-12 13:57 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-17 3:04 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-17 3:38 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-15 3:42 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-15 8:03 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-06-15 11:39 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-15 12:01 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-06-15 13:34 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-15 14:16 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-06-16 2:33 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-17 8:27 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-06-17 9:19 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-06-17 15:09 ` David Henningsson
2015-06-17 16:48 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-18 3:15 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-19 11:19 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-19 1:17 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-19 11:32 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-06-20 3:24 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-20 6:17 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22 2:35 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22 6:43 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-06-22 7:49 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22 9:41 ` Clemens Ladisch
2015-06-22 11:54 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22 12:10 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-22 12:34 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22 12:49 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-22 15:50 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22 16:28 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-24 5:51 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22 22:52 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-06-27 15:28 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-27 17:15 ` Clemens Ladisch
2015-06-27 17:58 ` Alexander E. Patrakov [this message]
2015-06-28 2:09 ` Raymond Yau
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