From: Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
To: Liam Girdwood <liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com>,
"alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Subject: 'BATCH flag for USB' and 'ALSA Core Challenges'
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 23:09:49 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <561D10AD.7010800@sakamocchi.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1444657786.2528.78.camel@loki>
Hi,
(If I were in ±0200、I would have joined in the meeting...)
There're some interesting issues in the minutes. Would I request someone
more explaination about it?
> BATCH flag for USB: Arun.
> =========================
> - Flag does not respond to reality, lets deprecate it. no users.
> - Dylan: need to know transfer size for CRAS (uses extra samples for
> buffering).
> - BATCH flag means period size transfers, applications that use new
> granularity API can ignore batch flag. Pierre: to implement.
The first item said 'BATCH flag should be deprecated', while
BLOCK_TRANSFER flag is not mentioned. Are there some discussions about
the differences between these two flags?
I think the APIs suppose that the number of PCM frames in one
transferring is the same as the number of PCM frames in one period of
buffer. PCM device driver developers must always satisfy this principle?
Or the APIs allow them to implement such differences and present proper
value to userspace?
> ALSA Core Challenges:
> ======================
> - ALSA Core locking is complicated. Core code is quite difficult to
> understand.
> - PCM linking makes things complex
> - Add documentation for locks.
> - Controls can be hidden in UI tools through iface_cards.
> - DPCM hidden PCMs should not be shown in usermode, hide them from
> Usermode
The third item mentions about 'iface_cards', while there'no such
structure in kernel/userspace.
What's it and what is the 'UI tools'? Does it means to produce some GUI
widget?
Sorry just to take my questions but I'm not a participant of the meeting...
Regards
Takashi Sakamoto
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-13 14:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-12 13:49 [Minutes] ELCE Audio mini conf Liam Girdwood
2015-10-12 15:30 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2015-10-12 20:59 ` Splitting out controls James Cameron
2015-10-13 7:07 ` David Henningsson
2015-10-13 8:27 ` Keyon
2015-10-13 14:55 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2015-10-13 15:56 ` David Henningsson
2015-10-13 16:08 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2015-10-16 6:41 ` David Henningsson
2015-10-16 14:49 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2015-10-16 15:24 ` Richard Fitzgerald
2015-10-30 2:48 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-16 15:28 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-14 18:20 ` Liam Girdwood
2015-10-16 15:35 ` Richard Fitzgerald
2015-10-16 16:00 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-16 16:31 ` Richard Fitzgerald
2015-10-16 17:00 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-17 15:54 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2015-10-17 16:02 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-18 6:41 ` Ricard Wanderlof
2015-10-30 2:57 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-17 16:25 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-10-30 2:50 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-30 2:36 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-30 8:36 ` David Henningsson
2015-10-30 8:53 ` James Cameron
2015-10-30 9:04 ` David Henningsson
2015-11-01 2:45 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-13 14:09 ` Takashi Sakamoto [this message]
2015-10-13 14:44 ` 'BATCH flag for USB' and 'ALSA Core Challenges' Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-10-18 3:22 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-10-13 16:01 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2015-10-14 12:27 ` Liam Girdwood
2015-10-22 17:10 ` [Minutes] ELCE Audio mini conf Mark Brown
2015-10-22 17:14 ` DP hotplug on USB C Mark Brown
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