* Better support for new USB Condenser Microphone: Samson C01U
@ 2006-01-04 19:16 Christoph Richter
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From: Christoph Richter @ 2006-01-04 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: alsa-devel
I recently bought this microphone:
http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1810&brandID=2
and have been quite pleased to see that it kind of works with alsa
(snd-usb-audio). I've only been puzzled by a few oddities: Although
the mic is mono, I get a stereo input with 2 controls, which did even
influence the sound on both channels separatly, but in a not-so-clear
way.
Since neither the windows, nor the OSX usb-audio driver are able to
fully control the device, especially the internal gain-control, Samson
has published a modified driver & tool to control such parameters. I
have investigated that tool with an usb-traffic sniffer (usbsnoop).
I did also do some experiments with the alsa driver to see, what the
controls really do and how the device might be designed internally. I
have found out about everything needed to make the device fully
supported, I just don't really know how to implement it, so I'm hoping
someone will guide and help me. Although I'd really like to, I'm not a
kernel hacker.
What I basically want to do is remap and rename the mixer-controls and
output-lines alsa exposes. Is that what usbquirks.h and
usbmixer_maps.c are for?
Details about the device and my findings follow below:
----lsusb -v
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 17a0:0001
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 1.10
bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level)
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 8
idVendor 0x17a0
idProduct 0x0001
bcdDevice 0.01
iManufacturer 1 Samson Technologies
iProduct 2 Samson C01U
iSerial 0
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 177
bNumInterfaces 2
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0x80
MaxPower 90mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 0
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Control Device
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (HEADER)
bcdADC 1.00
wTotalLength 40
bInCollection 1
baInterfaceNr( 0) 1
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 12
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID 1
wTerminalType 0x0201 Microphone
bAssocTerminal 2
bNrChannels 2
wChannelConfig 0x0003
Left Front (L)
Right Front (R)
iChannelNames 0
iTerminal 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID 2
wTerminalType 0x0101 USB Streaming
bAssocTerminal 1
bSourceID 3
iTerminal 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 10
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 6 (FEATURE_UNIT)
bUnitID 3
bSourceID 1
bControlSize 1
bmaControls( 0) 0x01
Mute
bmaControls( 1) 0x02
Volume
bmaControls( 2) 0x02
Volume
iFeature 0
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 1
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 0
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 1
bAlternateSetting 1
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink 2
bDelay 1 frames
wFormatTag 1 PCM
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 23
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType 1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bNrChannels 1
bSubframeSize 2
bBitResolution 16
bSamFreqType 5 Discrete
tSamFreq[ 0] 8000
tSamFreq[ 1] 11025
tSamFreq[ 2] 22050
tSamFreq[ 3] 44100
tSamFreq[ 4] 48000
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 5
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type Asynchronous
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0064 1x 100 bytes
bInterval 1
bRefresh 0
bSynchAddress 0
AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes 0x01
Sampling Frequency
bLockDelayUnits 0 Undefined
wLockDelay 0 Undefined
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 1
bAlternateSetting 2
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink 2
bDelay 1 frames
wFormatTag 1 PCM
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 23
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType 1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bNrChannels 2
bSubframeSize 2
bBitResolution 16
bSamFreqType 5 Discrete
tSamFreq[ 0] 8000
tSamFreq[ 1] 11025
tSamFreq[ 2] 22050
tSamFreq[ 3] 44100
tSamFreq[ 4] 48000
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 5
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type Asynchronous
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x00c8 1x 200 bytes
bInterval 1
bRefresh 0
bSynchAddress 0
AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes 0x01
Sampling Frequency
bLockDelayUnits 0 Undefined
wLockDelay 0 Undefined
----registered as:
ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:2626: 2:1:1: add audio endpoint 0x81
ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:2626: 2:1:2: add audio endpoint 0x81
ALSA sound/usb/usbmixer.c:920: [3] FU [Mic Capture Switch] ch = 1, val = 0/1/1
ALSA sound/usb/usbmixer.c:393: cannot set ctl value: req = 0x4, wValue
= 0x201, wIndex = 0x300, type = 4, data = 0x80/0x0
ALSA sound/usb/usbmixer.c:920: [3] FU [Mic Capture Volume] ch = 2, val
= -7936/6144/256
----cat /proc/asound/card1/stream0
Samson Technologies Samson C01U at usb-0000:00:01.3-1, full : USB Audio
Capture:
Status: Stop
Interface 1
Altset 1
Format: S16_LE
Channels: 1
Endpoint: 1 IN (ASYNC)
Rates: 8000, 11025, 22050, 44100, 48000
Interface 1
Altset 2
Format: S16_LE
Channels: 2
Endpoint: 1 IN (ASYNC)
Rates: 8000, 11025, 22050, 44100, 48000
-----Samson's SoftPre-tool:
Samson has published a modified driver and the so called SoftPre-Applet.
The tool has 3 control elements: A knob for the low-cut-frequency, a
button for Phase-invert and a Gain-slider.
The usbsnoopy-session made it obvious, that only the Gain-setting is a
hardware-feature, since none of the other controls did produce any
traffic.
The usb traffic-log reveals that SoftPre uses both volume controls
(Left+Right) to set the desired gain value (-62dB - +48dB). The scale
is as follows:
wValue: 201, 202 (aka 'Mic Capture Volume Left/Right') gain
data: 80 00 80 00 = mute?
80 00 E2 00 = -62dB
...
80 00 FF 00
E1 00 00 00
...
FF 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 = 0dB ?
01 00 00 00
...
17 00 00 00
7f ff 00 00
7f ff 01 00
...
7f ff 18 00 = 48dB
Since the volume-controls register as
[Mic Capture Volume] ch = 2, val = -7936/6144/256
ALSA reaches 0xE100 - 0x1800 on both controls anyway. The only thing I
don't get is if the 0x8000/0x7fff SoftPre sets the left control to do
have any effect.
>From experimenting with the normal vol-left/right controls, alsa
exposes, I have the fealing that each of them controls its own
Gain-stage, although the right one (0x202) does seem more like a
poti/damper, because you cannot get any signal to distort or clip with
it. I also noticed that the right and left channel are mutually
phase-inverted.
[Mic IN] ------->[0x202(Poti/Gain)]+------------------->[altset:2,Right-channel]
|
+--[0x201(GAIN)]---->[altset:2,Left-channel] = [altset:1(mono)]
Alsa selects which altset to use depending on what format you request.
E.g. if I start jackd with 1 input channel only, altset1 is selected
and I get the post_gain-signal as alsapcm:capture_1. If I request 2
input channels altset2 gets chosen and I get the post_gain-signal on
alsapcm:capture_1 and pre_gain-signal on alsapcm:capture_2.
The output of altset2/Left is identical to altset1.
So for Samson's C01U to be correctly handled by ALSA, 2 things have to be done:
1) either a) Give the 2 Volume-Controls descriptive names
(left -> gain; right -> volume)
or b) Create 1 'virtual' control, that mimicks the
behaviour of Samson's SoftPre-Applet (described above)
2) either a) make both (altset2-) 'stereo' streams available
seperatly with descriptive names (right -> pre-Gain; left ->
post-Gain)
or b) make altset1 the only output, after all that's
what you paid for.
A small advantage of having the pre-Gain signal available is that the
signal might be cleaner having passed only 1 gain stage. Another nice
thing is that each output would have an associated control (implying
1a and 2a).
Nonetheless this device is just a simple microphone and I guess most
people would prefer to leave the setup as simple as possible, which is
1 control and 1 (mono) output.
How can either possibility be implemented into snd-usb-audio?
Thanks for your interest,
Toph
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