Re: Set eapd to follow stream on or off

[Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>]

At Tue, 20 May 2014 18:05:42 +0800,
Kailang wrote:
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> > At Tue, 20 May 2014 17:20:44 +0800,
> > Kailang wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > At Tue, 20 May 2014 16:52:43 +0800,
> >> > Kailang wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > At Tue, 20 May 2014 15:15:49 +0800,
> >> >> > Kailang wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi Takashi,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> HP machine had pop noise via speaker.
> >> >> >> If EAPD on or off, speaker will have pop noise.
> >> >> >> So, they want to set eapd to follow with stream on or off.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I can apply this as is, but still I wonder whether this results in
> >> >> > other problems.  Doing EAPD on/off there means that it happens far
> >> >> > more often.  For example, what happens if you do like below?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >     while true; do
> >> >> >       echo -n > /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
> >> >> >     done
> >> >> >
> >> >> > And, what if the device is resumed from power-saving by an audio
> >> >> > playback?  Immediately after the power up, it'll start the 
> >> >> > streaming,
> >> >> > so it'll turn on EAPD.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That said, isn't it just a need for some delay before EAPD on/off?
> >> >>
> >> >> No, eapd on or off will cause pop noise.
> >> >
> >> > Does it do always?
> >> No, pop noise just one pop sound. It can not remove by software.
> >> But this machine need to do this always.
> >
> > So, doing EAPD on/off often is rather worse.  It's what your patch
> > does.
> >
> > Once again: did you try the script above?  If the pop noise always
> 
> I had try it on my develop machine. I have no HP issue machine on my site.
> 
> > happens, the operation like above is the worst scenario.
> >
> > Then, let's think again how to *reduce* it.  We need one EAPD on at
> > least after each power up.  But it's needed only when you actually
> > plays a stream.  That is, we need only enable EAPD at playback stream
> > open, but leave EAPD as is at close.
> >
> 
> [we need only enable EAPD at playback stream open, but leave EAPD as is at 
> close.]
> Yes.
> So, I need to create eapd low in alc269_shutup. Right?

Better to create own shutup callback (you can call alc269_shutup()
from there, too) and set it to spec->shutup in the fixup.  The pincfg
cleanup isn't often needed or may have bad effect.  You should test
with real machines what are needed and what are not.


Takashi

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> >
> > Takashi
> >
> >> >> Our customer just want to do eapd on when stream is open.
> >> >> The pop noise will not clear. Because music gain was biger than pop
> >> >> noise.
> >> >
> >> > Opening a stream doesn't mean that it follows the loud sound
> >> > immediately.  The script above wouldn't produce any sound but just
> >> > does open/close the stream.  Did you try that?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Takashi
> >> >
> >> > ------Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
> >> 
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