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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Kailang <kailang@realtek.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: Set eapd to follow stream on or off
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 11:10:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5htx8j8pkt.wl%tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2BA29E879D5348299D5D82B47C851285@realtek.com.tw>

At Wed, 21 May 2014 14:28:12 +0800,
Kailang wrote:
> 
> Hi Takashi,
> 
> Attach is the update patch.

Keep the function in lower letters.

Also, update the patch description as well (and better to put more
words).


thanks,

Takashi

> Many thanks.
> 
> BR,
> Kailang
> 
> 
> > At Wed, 21 May 2014 13:58:14 +0800,
> > Kailang wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > At Tue, 20 May 2014 18:05:42 +0800,
> >> > Kailang wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > At Tue, 20 May 2014 17:20:44 +0800,
> >> >> > Kailang wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > At Tue, 20 May 2014 16:52:43 +0800,
> >> >> >> > Kailang wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > At Tue, 20 May 2014 15:15:49 +0800,
> >> >> >> >> > Kailang wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Takashi,
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> HP machine had pop noise via speaker.
> >> >> >> >> >> If EAPD on or off, speaker will have pop noise.
> >> >> >> >> >> So, they want to set eapd to follow with stream on or off.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I can apply this as is, but still I wonder whether this 
> >> >> >> >> > results
> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> > other problems.  Doing EAPD on/off there means that it happens
> >> >> >> >> > far
> >> >> >> >> > more often.  For example, what happens if you do like below?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >     while true; do
> >> >> >> >> >       echo -n > /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
> >> >> >> >> >     done
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > And, what if the device is resumed from power-saving by an 
> >> >> >> >> > audio
> >> >> >> >> > playback?  Immediately after the power up, it'll start the
> >> >> >> >> > streaming,
> >> >> >> >> > so it'll turn on EAPD.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > That said, isn't it just a need for some delay before EAPD
> >> >> >> >> > on/off?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> No, eapd on or off will cause pop noise.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Does it do always?
> >> >> >> No, pop noise just one pop sound. It can not remove by software.
> >> >> >> But this machine need to do this always.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So, doing EAPD on/off often is rather worse.  It's what your patch
> >> >> > does.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Once again: did you try the script above?  If the pop noise always
> >> >>
> >> >> I had try it on my develop machine. I have no HP issue machine on my
> >> >> site.
> >> >>
> >> >> > happens, the operation like above is the worst scenario.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Then, let's think again how to *reduce* it.  We need one EAPD on at
> >> >> > least after each power up.  But it's needed only when you actually
> >> >> > plays a stream.  That is, we need only enable EAPD at playback 
> >> >> > stream
> >> >> > open, but leave EAPD as is at close.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> [we need only enable EAPD at playback stream open, but leave EAPD as 
> >> >> is
> >> >> at
> >> >> close.]
> >> >> Yes.
> >> >> So, I need to create eapd low in alc269_shutup. Right?
> >> >
> >> > Better to create own shutup callback (you can call alc269_shutup()
> >> > from there, too) and set it to spec->shutup in the fixup.  The pincfg
> >> > cleanup isn't often needed or may have bad effect.  You should test
> >> > with real machines what are needed and what are not.
> >>
> >> static void alc290_fixup_pop_noise(struct hda_codec *codec,
> >>            const struct hda_fixup *fix, int action)
> >> {
> >>  struct alc_spec *spec = codec->spec;
> >>
> >>  if (action == HDA_FIXUP_ACT_PRE_PROBE) {
> >>   spec->gen.pcm_playback_hook = ALC290_playback_pcm_hook;
> >>  }
> >> if (action ==   HDA_FIXUP_ACT_INIT) {
> >>   set_eapd(codec, 0x14, false);
> >>  }
> >> }
> >>
> >> Could I modify as upper code?
> >> To set eapd low in HDA_FIXUP_ACT_INIT state.
> >> If system resume, it will initial eapd to low.
> >> To write eapd to same value, it will have no pop noise.
> >> It will keep always low for eapd, only stream open and close have change
> >> state for eapd.
> >
> > Yes, it looks OK.
> >
> >
> > Takashi
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Takashi
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Takashi
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Our customer just want to do eapd on when stream is open.
> >> >> >> >> The pop noise will not clear. Because music gain was biger than 
> >> >> >> >> pop
> >> >> >> >> noise.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Opening a stream doesn't mean that it follows the loud sound
> >> >> >> > immediately.  The script above wouldn't produce any sound but 
> >> >> >> > just
> >> >> >> > does open/close the stream.  Did you try that?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Takashi
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > ------Please consider the environment before printing this 
> >> >> >> > e-mail.
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> 
> [2 0001-set-eapd-follow-stream-on-off.patch <application/octet-stream (quoted-printable)>]
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-21  9:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-20  7:15 Set eapd to follow stream on or off Kailang
2014-05-20  7:46 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-20  8:52   ` Kailang
2014-05-20  9:03     ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-20  9:20       ` Kailang
2014-05-20  9:35         ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-20 10:05           ` Kailang
2014-05-20 10:10             ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-21  5:58               ` Kailang
2014-05-21  6:07                 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-21  6:28                   ` Kailang
2014-05-21  9:10                     ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2014-05-21  9:24                       ` Kailang
2014-05-21  9:50                         ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-22  6:26                           ` Kailang
2014-05-22  6:59                             ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-22  7:26                               ` Kailang
2014-05-21  8:55                   ` Add support headset mode for alc233 Kailang
2014-05-21  9:13                     ` Takashi Iwai
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-06-04  6:14 Set eapd to follow stream on or off Kailang

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