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* Hda-intel: AC_VERB_SET_PIN_WIDGET_CONTROL appears to do nothing for HDMI device
@ 2008-03-09  0:10 Ben Firshman
  2008-03-09 13:05 ` Ben Firshman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ben Firshman @ 2008-03-09  0:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

This is on 1.0.16. Forgive me if I appear clueless, I have only been  
working on this for the past few hours.

In an attempt to get HDMI audio working on the AppleTV, I have added  
this line to the presets in patch_atihdmi.c:

{ .id = 0x10951390, .name = "SI1390 HDMI", .patch = patch_atihdmi },

The device is detected fine:

ben@mythfrontend:~$ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC882 Analog [ALC882 Analog]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC882 Digital [ALC882 Digital]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
ben@mythfrontend:~$

and I can send audio to the device, but it doesn't work. I presume  
this because this is doing nothing:

static struct hda_verb atihdmi_basic_init[] = {
	/* enable digital output on pin widget */
	{ 0x03, AC_VERB_SET_PIN_WIDGET_CONTROL, PIN_OUT },
	{} /* terminator */
};

ben@mythfrontend:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#1
Codec: Generic 1095 SI1390 HDMI
Address: 1
Vendor Id: 0x10951390
Subsystem Id: 0xffffffff
Revision Id: 0x100000
No Modem Function Group found
Default PCM:
     rates [0x0]:
     bits [0x0]:
     formats [0x0]:
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
GPIO: io=0, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=0, wake=0
Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x6211: Stereo Digital
   Converter: stream=0, channel=0
   Digital:
   Digital category: 0x0
   PCM:
     rates [0x7f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000
     bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32
     formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
Node 0x03 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40738d: Stereo Digital Amp-Out
   Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
   Amp-Out vals:  [0x80 0x80]
   Pincap 0x0894: OUT Detect R/L
   Pin Default 0x98460010: [Fixed] SPDIF Out at Int HDMI
     Conn = Digital, Color = Unknown
     DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0
   Pin-ctls: 0x00:
   Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
   Connection: 1
      0x02

"Pin-ctls: 0x00:" should be reading "Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT" should it  
not? What is wrong?

Thanks

Ben

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* Re: Hda-intel: AC_VERB_SET_PIN_WIDGET_CONTROL appears to do nothing for HDMI device
  2008-03-09  0:10 Hda-intel: AC_VERB_SET_PIN_WIDGET_CONTROL appears to do nothing for HDMI device Ben Firshman
@ 2008-03-09 13:05 ` Ben Firshman
  2008-03-12 18:20   ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ben Firshman @ 2008-03-09 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

It appears that on boot, nothing gets set, but if I reload the module  
it works:

ben@mythfrontend:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#1
Codec: Generic 1095 SI1390 HDMI
Address: 1
Vendor Id: 0x10951390
Subsystem Id: 0xffffffff
Revision Id: 0x100000
No Modem Function Group found
Default PCM:
     rates [0x0]:
     bits [0x0]:
     formats [0x0]:
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
GPIO: io=0, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=0, wake=0
Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x6211: Stereo Digital
   Converter: stream=0, channel=0
   Digital: Enabled Copyright GenLevel
   Digital category: 0x0
   PCM:
     rates [0x7f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000
     bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32
     formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
Node 0x03 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40738d: Stereo Digital Amp-Out
   Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
   Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
   Pincap 0x0894: OUT Detect R/L
   Pin Default 0x98460010: [Fixed] SPDIF Out at Int HDMI
     Conn = Digital, Color = Unknown
     DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0
   Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
   Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
   Connection: 1
      0x02
ben@mythfrontend:~$

The unmuting looks like it's working too (Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]).  
I'm still not getting any sound though - my amp just says  
"Detecting...".

Is the GPIO line significant? As far as I can tell from the docs, that  
just means there are no GPIOs.

Ben

On 9 Mar 2008, at 00:10, Ben Firshman wrote:

> This is on 1.0.16. Forgive me if I appear clueless, I have only been
> working on this for the past few hours.
>
> In an attempt to get HDMI audio working on the AppleTV, I have added
> this line to the presets in patch_atihdmi.c:
>
> { .id = 0x10951390, .name = "SI1390 HDMI", .patch = patch_atihdmi },
>
> The device is detected fine:
>
> ben@mythfrontend:~$ aplay -l
> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC882 Analog [ALC882 Analog]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC882 Digital [ALC882 Digital]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> ben@mythfrontend:~$
>
> and I can send audio to the device, but it doesn't work. I presume
> this because this is doing nothing:
>
> static struct hda_verb atihdmi_basic_init[] = {
> 	/* enable digital output on pin widget */
> 	{ 0x03, AC_VERB_SET_PIN_WIDGET_CONTROL, PIN_OUT },
> 	{} /* terminator */
> };
>
> ben@mythfrontend:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#1
> Codec: Generic 1095 SI1390 HDMI
> Address: 1
> Vendor Id: 0x10951390
> Subsystem Id: 0xffffffff
> Revision Id: 0x100000
> No Modem Function Group found
> Default PCM:
>     rates [0x0]:
>     bits [0x0]:
>     formats [0x0]:
> Default Amp-In caps: N/A
> Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
> GPIO: io=0, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=0, wake=0
> Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x6211: Stereo Digital
>   Converter: stream=0, channel=0
>   Digital:
>   Digital category: 0x0
>   PCM:
>     rates [0x7f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000
>     bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32
>     formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
> Node 0x03 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40738d: Stereo Digital Amp-Out
>   Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
>   Amp-Out vals:  [0x80 0x80]
>   Pincap 0x0894: OUT Detect R/L
>   Pin Default 0x98460010: [Fixed] SPDIF Out at Int HDMI
>     Conn = Digital, Color = Unknown
>     DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0
>   Pin-ctls: 0x00:
>   Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
>   Connection: 1
>      0x02
>
> "Pin-ctls: 0x00:" should be reading "Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT" should it
> not? What is wrong?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ben
>
> _______________________________________________
> Alsa-devel mailing list
> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel

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* Re: Hda-intel: AC_VERB_SET_PIN_WIDGET_CONTROL appears to do nothing for HDMI device
  2008-03-09 13:05 ` Ben Firshman
@ 2008-03-12 18:20   ` Takashi Iwai
  2008-03-12 18:40     ` Ben Firshman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2008-03-12 18:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ben Firshman; +Cc: alsa-devel

At Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:05:39 +0000,
Ben Firshman wrote:
> 
> It appears that on boot, nothing gets set, but if I reload the module  
> it works:
> 
> ben@mythfrontend:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#1
> Codec: Generic 1095 SI1390 HDMI
> Address: 1
> Vendor Id: 0x10951390
> Subsystem Id: 0xffffffff
> Revision Id: 0x100000
> No Modem Function Group found
> Default PCM:
>      rates [0x0]:
>      bits [0x0]:
>      formats [0x0]:
> Default Amp-In caps: N/A
> Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
> GPIO: io=0, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=0, wake=0
> Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x6211: Stereo Digital
>    Converter: stream=0, channel=0
>    Digital: Enabled Copyright GenLevel
>    Digital category: 0x0
>    PCM:
>      rates [0x7f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000
>      bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32
>      formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
> Node 0x03 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40738d: Stereo Digital Amp-Out
>    Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
>    Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
>    Pincap 0x0894: OUT Detect R/L
>    Pin Default 0x98460010: [Fixed] SPDIF Out at Int HDMI
>      Conn = Digital, Color = Unknown
>      DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0
>    Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
>    Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
>    Connection: 1
>       0x02
> ben@mythfrontend:~$
> 
> The unmuting looks like it's working too (Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]).  
> I'm still not getting any sound though - my amp just says  
> "Detecting...".
> 
> Is the GPIO line significant? As far as I can tell from the docs, that  
> just means there are no GPIOs.

I don't think it's GPIO.  Which graphic chip is on AppleTV?
if it's Nvidia, we have little chance.  But, if it's an Intel
on-board, it might work.  Some people reported HDMI works in a certain
level (not perfectly at all though).

Anyway, you can try my latest tree available at git.kernel.org
   git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-unstable-2.6.git
and
   git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/alsa-driver-build-unstable.git

The former is the kernel tree and the latter is alsa-driver build
tree.  Run utils/setup-alsa-kernel KERNEL_DIR on alsa-driver tree to
set up the build with sound-unstable kernel git tree (see INSTALL for
details).

The ready-to-be-built snapshot tarball is available at
   http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/


Takashi

> 
> Ben
> 
> On 9 Mar 2008, at 00:10, Ben Firshman wrote:
> 
> > This is on 1.0.16. Forgive me if I appear clueless, I have only been
> > working on this for the past few hours.
> >
> > In an attempt to get HDMI audio working on the AppleTV, I have added
> > this line to the presets in patch_atihdmi.c:
> >
> > { .id = 0x10951390, .name = "SI1390 HDMI", .patch = patch_atihdmi },
> >
> > The device is detected fine:
> >
> > ben@mythfrontend:~$ aplay -l
> > **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
> > card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC882 Analog [ALC882 Analog]
> >   Subdevices: 1/1
> >   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC882 Digital [ALC882 Digital]
> >   Subdevices: 1/1
> >   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
> >   Subdevices: 1/1
> >   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > ben@mythfrontend:~$
> >
> > and I can send audio to the device, but it doesn't work. I presume
> > this because this is doing nothing:
> >
> > static struct hda_verb atihdmi_basic_init[] = {
> > 	/* enable digital output on pin widget */
> > 	{ 0x03, AC_VERB_SET_PIN_WIDGET_CONTROL, PIN_OUT },
> > 	{} /* terminator */
> > };
> >
> > ben@mythfrontend:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#1
> > Codec: Generic 1095 SI1390 HDMI
> > Address: 1
> > Vendor Id: 0x10951390
> > Subsystem Id: 0xffffffff
> > Revision Id: 0x100000
> > No Modem Function Group found
> > Default PCM:
> >     rates [0x0]:
> >     bits [0x0]:
> >     formats [0x0]:
> > Default Amp-In caps: N/A
> > Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
> > GPIO: io=0, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=0, wake=0
> > Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x6211: Stereo Digital
> >   Converter: stream=0, channel=0
> >   Digital:
> >   Digital category: 0x0
> >   PCM:
> >     rates [0x7f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000
> >     bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32
> >     formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
> > Node 0x03 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40738d: Stereo Digital Amp-Out
> >   Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
> >   Amp-Out vals:  [0x80 0x80]
> >   Pincap 0x0894: OUT Detect R/L
> >   Pin Default 0x98460010: [Fixed] SPDIF Out at Int HDMI
> >     Conn = Digital, Color = Unknown
> >     DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0
> >   Pin-ctls: 0x00:
> >   Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
> >   Connection: 1
> >      0x02
> >
> > "Pin-ctls: 0x00:" should be reading "Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT" should it
> > not? What is wrong?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Alsa-devel mailing list
> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> 

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* Re: Hda-intel: AC_VERB_SET_PIN_WIDGET_CONTROL appears to do nothing for HDMI device
  2008-03-12 18:20   ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2008-03-12 18:40     ` Ben Firshman
  2008-03-13  7:19       ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ben Firshman @ 2008-03-12 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: alsa-devel


On 12 Mar 2008, at 18:20, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> At Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:05:39 +0000,
> Ben Firshman wrote:
>>
>> It appears that on boot, nothing gets set, but if I reload the module
>> it works:
>>
>> ben@mythfrontend:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#1
>> Codec: Generic 1095 SI1390 HDMI
>> Address: 1
>> Vendor Id: 0x10951390
>> Subsystem Id: 0xffffffff
>> Revision Id: 0x100000
>> No Modem Function Group found
>> Default PCM:
>>     rates [0x0]:
>>     bits [0x0]:
>>     formats [0x0]:
>> Default Amp-In caps: N/A
>> Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
>> GPIO: io=0, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=0, wake=0
>> Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x6211: Stereo Digital
>>   Converter: stream=0, channel=0
>>   Digital: Enabled Copyright GenLevel
>>   Digital category: 0x0
>>   PCM:
>>     rates [0x7f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000
>>     bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32
>>     formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
>> Node 0x03 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40738d: Stereo Digital Amp-Out
>>   Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
>>   Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
>>   Pincap 0x0894: OUT Detect R/L
>>   Pin Default 0x98460010: [Fixed] SPDIF Out at Int HDMI
>>     Conn = Digital, Color = Unknown
>>     DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0
>>   Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
>>   Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
>>   Connection: 1
>>      0x02
>> ben@mythfrontend:~$
>>
>> The unmuting looks like it's working too (Amp-Out vals:  [0x00  
>> 0x00]).
>> I'm still not getting any sound though - my amp just says
>> "Detecting...".
>>
>> Is the GPIO line significant? As far as I can tell from the docs,  
>> that
>> just means there are no GPIOs.
>
> I don't think it's GPIO.  Which graphic chip is on AppleTV?
> if it's Nvidia, we have little chance.  But, if it's an Intel
> on-board, it might work.  Some people reported HDMI works in a certain
> level (not perfectly at all though).
>
> Anyway, you can try my latest tree available at git.kernel.org
>   git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound- 
> unstable-2.6.git
> and
>   git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/alsa-driver- 
> build-unstable.git
>
> The former is the kernel tree and the latter is alsa-driver build
> tree.  Run utils/setup-alsa-kernel KERNEL_DIR on alsa-driver tree to
> set up the build with sound-unstable kernel git tree (see INSTALL for
> details).
>
> The ready-to-be-built snapshot tarball is available at
>   http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/
>

Yeah, it's a Nvidia chip:

http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/Parts

Why do you have little chance then? Surely the Nvidia chip is  
independent of the HDMI chip, which is in turn independent of the  
sound card? Video out over HDMI works fine with the nv binary drivers  
you see.

Ben

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* Re: Hda-intel: AC_VERB_SET_PIN_WIDGET_CONTROL appears to do nothing for HDMI device
  2008-03-12 18:40     ` Ben Firshman
@ 2008-03-13  7:19       ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2008-03-13  7:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ben Firshman; +Cc: alsa-devel

At Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:40:23 +0000,
Ben Firshman wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12 Mar 2008, at 18:20, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> 
> > At Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:05:39 +0000,
> > Ben Firshman wrote:
> >>
> >> It appears that on boot, nothing gets set, but if I reload the module
> >> it works:
> >>
> >> ben@mythfrontend:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#1
> >> Codec: Generic 1095 SI1390 HDMI
> >> Address: 1
> >> Vendor Id: 0x10951390
> >> Subsystem Id: 0xffffffff
> >> Revision Id: 0x100000
> >> No Modem Function Group found
> >> Default PCM:
> >>     rates [0x0]:
> >>     bits [0x0]:
> >>     formats [0x0]:
> >> Default Amp-In caps: N/A
> >> Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
> >> GPIO: io=0, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=0, wake=0
> >> Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x6211: Stereo Digital
> >>   Converter: stream=0, channel=0
> >>   Digital: Enabled Copyright GenLevel
> >>   Digital category: 0x0
> >>   PCM:
> >>     rates [0x7f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000
> >>     bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32
> >>     formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
> >> Node 0x03 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40738d: Stereo Digital Amp-Out
> >>   Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
> >>   Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
> >>   Pincap 0x0894: OUT Detect R/L
> >>   Pin Default 0x98460010: [Fixed] SPDIF Out at Int HDMI
> >>     Conn = Digital, Color = Unknown
> >>     DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0
> >>   Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
> >>   Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
> >>   Connection: 1
> >>      0x02
> >> ben@mythfrontend:~$
> >>
> >> The unmuting looks like it's working too (Amp-Out vals:  [0x00  
> >> 0x00]).
> >> I'm still not getting any sound though - my amp just says
> >> "Detecting...".
> >>
> >> Is the GPIO line significant? As far as I can tell from the docs,  
> >> that
> >> just means there are no GPIOs.
> >
> > I don't think it's GPIO.  Which graphic chip is on AppleTV?
> > if it's Nvidia, we have little chance.  But, if it's an Intel
> > on-board, it might work.  Some people reported HDMI works in a certain
> > level (not perfectly at all though).
> >
> > Anyway, you can try my latest tree available at git.kernel.org
> >   git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound- 
> > unstable-2.6.git
> > and
> >   git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/alsa-driver- 
> > build-unstable.git
> >
> > The former is the kernel tree and the latter is alsa-driver build
> > tree.  Run utils/setup-alsa-kernel KERNEL_DIR on alsa-driver tree to
> > set up the build with sound-unstable kernel git tree (see INSTALL for
> > details).
> >
> > The ready-to-be-built snapshot tarball is available at
> >   http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/
> >
> 
> Yeah, it's a Nvidia chip:
> 
> http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/Parts
> 
> Why do you have little chance then? Surely the Nvidia chip is  
> independent of the HDMI chip, which is in turn independent of the  
> sound card?

The HDMI audio output depends on the video driver in many cases
actually because of its nature.  But, this isn't no certain fact for
all cases.  It might work in your case.  That's why I wrote "little"
chance, not "no" chance.  So, still it'd be worth to try my patchset.

(The "little" chance implies that you'll likely get no answer from
 Apple for your inquiry about the hardware details :)

Takashi

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