Plugging in headphones doesn't mute speakers, internal microphone does not work

Plugging in headphones doesn't mute speakers, internal microphone does not work

[Emilio López]

Hello,

This is my first mail to the list, I hope you can help me. I have been
talking with people on #alsa, but they couldn't help me, so that's why
I'm writing to you.

Well, as lspci says, my Acer Aspire 6930 laptop has an "Intel
Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)". With
this card, and without adding any mode=... to
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, playback works perfectly, but when I plug
in headphones, the integrated speakers do not mute. I can mute the
speakers muting "front" and "side" and use the headphones, but it
should be automatic.

Setting mode=auto makes the headphones, when plugged, mute the
speakers. But the problem with this is, that when using the speakers,
I only get sound from the speaker that was "front" in the other mode.
The microphone does not work in this mode either.

I also tried other modes, including (but not limited to) acer,
acer-aspire. I ran alsa-info.sh, here is the URL:
http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7910da439e8e190a8c2a6f18167d4879c74881c9

And before I forget, regarding the microphone, if I plug an external
one on the microphone plug, I can record. And I tried the internal one
on windows, and it works, so I believe it's an alsa problem.

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Emilio

Re: Plugging in headphones doesn't mute speakers, internal microphone does not work

[Takashi Iwai]

At Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:38:10 -0200,
Emilio López wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This is my first mail to the list, I hope you can help me. I have been
> talking with people on #alsa, but they couldn't help me, so that's why
> I'm writing to you.
> 
> Well, as lspci says, my Acer Aspire 6930 laptop has an "Intel
> Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)". With
> this card, and without adding any mode=... to
> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, playback works perfectly, but when I plug
> in headphones, the integrated speakers do not mute. I can mute the
> speakers muting "front" and "side" and use the headphones, but it
> should be automatic.
> 
> Setting mode=auto makes the headphones, when plugged, mute the
> speakers. But the problem with this is, that when using the speakers,
> I only get sound from the speaker that was "front" in the other mode.
> The microphone does not work in this mode either.
> 
> I also tried other modes, including (but not limited to) acer,
> acer-aspire. I ran alsa-info.sh, here is the URL:
> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7910da439e8e190a8c2a6f18167d4879c74881c9
> 
> And before I forget, regarding the microphone, if I plug an external
> one on the microphone plug, I can record. And I tried the internal one
> on windows, and it works, so I believe it's an alsa problem.
> 
> Looking forward to hearing from you!

Could you check the very latest sound git tree or alsa-driver snapshot
below, first without model option?
  git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git
  ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz


thanks,

Takashi

Re: Plugging in headphones doesn't mute speakers, internal microphone does not work

[Emilio López]

Hi,

I tried with the alsa-driver snapshot without any model option, and now the
headphones mute the speakers. But the internal microphone doesn't still
work, and 'Side' doesn't output sound like it did before, even if it's
unmuted and with volume at 100% (with the old version and without any model
option, it worked)

Any thoughts? If you need any other info about my system, don't hesitate to
ask for it :)

Looking forward to hearing from you, and thanks in advance!

Emilio

2009/3/2 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>

> At Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:38:10 -0200,
> Emilio López wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > This is my first mail to the list, I hope you can help me. I have been
> > talking with people on #alsa, but they couldn't help me, so that's why
> > I'm writing to you.
> >
> > Well, as lspci says, my Acer Aspire 6930 laptop has an "Intel
> > Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)". With
> > this card, and without adding any mode=... to
> > /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, playback works perfectly, but when I plug
> > in headphones, the integrated speakers do not mute. I can mute the
> > speakers muting "front" and "side" and use the headphones, but it
> > should be automatic.
> >
> > Setting mode=auto makes the headphones, when plugged, mute the
> > speakers. But the problem with this is, that when using the speakers,
> > I only get sound from the speaker that was "front" in the other mode.
> > The microphone does not work in this mode either.
> >
> > I also tried other modes, including (but not limited to) acer,
> > acer-aspire. I ran alsa-info.sh, here is the URL:
> >
> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7910da439e8e190a8c2a6f18167d4879c74881c9
> >
> > And before I forget, regarding the microphone, if I plug an external
> > one on the microphone plug, I can record. And I tried the internal one
> > on windows, and it works, so I believe it's an alsa problem.
> >
> > Looking forward to hearing from you!
>
> Could you check the very latest sound git tree or alsa-driver snapshot
> below, first without model option?
>  git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git
>
> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Takashi
>

Re: Plugging in headphones doesn't mute speakers, internal microphone does not work

[Takashi Iwai]

At Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:46:04 -0200,
Emilio López wrote:
> 
> 2009/3/2 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> 
>     At Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:38:10 -0200,
>     Emilio López wrote:
>     >
>     > Hello,
>     >
>     > This is my first mail to the list, I hope you can help me. I have been
>     > talking with people on #alsa, but they couldn't help me, so that's why
>     > I'm writing to you.
>     >
>     > Well, as lspci says, my Acer Aspire 6930 laptop has an "Intel
>     > Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)". With
>     > this card, and without adding any mode=... to
>     > /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, playback works perfectly, but when I plug
>     > in headphones, the integrated speakers do not mute. I can mute the
>     > speakers muting "front" and "side" and use the headphones, but it
>     > should be automatic.
>     >
>     > Setting mode=auto makes the headphones, when plugged, mute the
>     > speakers. But the problem with this is, that when using the speakers,
>     > I only get sound from the speaker that was "front" in the other mode.
>     > The microphone does not work in this mode either.
>     >
>     > I also tried other modes, including (but not limited to) acer,
>     > acer-aspire. I ran alsa-info.sh, here is the URL:
>     > http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=
>     7910da439e8e190a8c2a6f18167d4879c74881c9
>     >
>     > And before I forget, regarding the microphone, if I plug an external
>     > one on the microphone plug, I can record. And I tried the internal one
>     > on windows, and it works, so I believe it's an alsa problem.
>     >
>     > Looking forward to hearing from you!
>    
>     Could you check the very latest sound git tree or alsa-driver snapshot
>     below, first without model option?
>      git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git
>      ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/
>     alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I tried with the alsa-driver snapshot without any model option, and now the
> headphones mute the speakers. But the internal microphone doesn't still work,
> and 'Side' doesn't output sound like it did before, even if it's unmuted and
> with volume at 100% (with the old version and without any model option, it
> worked)

What "Side" volume would do exactly?  It's for 7.1 output.
Does the machine have 7.1 output?


Takashi

Re: Plugging in headphones doesn't mute speakers, internal microphone does not work

[Takashi Iwai]

At Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:18:13 -0200,
Emilio López wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 'Side' is the subwoofer on my laptop (my laptop has an integrated subwoofer,
> believe it or not.

Hmm, then it's a wrong assignment.  "Side" shouldn't be LFE.

> Acer calls it "Tuba cinebass" or something like that).
> Apart from that, the PC has a headphones/SPDIF jack, so I believe it supports
> 7.1?

No, it's totally irrelevant.
(SPDIF is 2-channel only, BTW.  Multi-channel is done via compressed
 formats, but the physical channels are only two.)


Takashi

> 
> 2009/3/3 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> 
>     At Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:46:04 -0200,
>     Emilio López wrote:
>     >
>     > 2009/3/2 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
>     >
>     >     At Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:38:10 -0200,
>     >     Emilio López wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     > Hello,
>     >     >
>     >     > This is my first mail to the list, I hope you can help me. I have
>     been
>     >     > talking with people on #alsa, but they couldn't help me, so that's
>     why
>     >     > I'm writing to you.
>     >     >
>     >     > Well, as lspci says, my Acer Aspire 6930 laptop has an "Intel
>     >     > Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)".
>     With
>     >     > this card, and without adding any mode=... to
>     >     > /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, playback works perfectly, but when I
>     plug
>     >     > in headphones, the integrated speakers do not mute. I can mute the
>     >     > speakers muting "front" and "side" and use the headphones, but it
>     >     > should be automatic.
>     >     >
>     >     > Setting mode=auto makes the headphones, when plugged, mute the
>     >     > speakers. But the problem with this is, that when using the
>     speakers,
>     >     > I only get sound from the speaker that was "front" in the other
>     mode.
>     >     > The microphone does not work in this mode either.
>     >     >
>     >     > I also tried other modes, including (but not limited to) acer,
>     >     > acer-aspire. I ran alsa-info.sh, here is the URL:
>     >     > http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=
>     >     7910da439e8e190a8c2a6f18167d4879c74881c9
>     >     >
>     >     > And before I forget, regarding the microphone, if I plug an
>     external
>     >     > one on the microphone plug, I can record. And I tried the internal
>     one
>     >     > on windows, and it works, so I believe it's an alsa problem.
>     >     >
>     >     > Looking forward to hearing from you!
>     >
>     >     Could you check the very latest sound git tree or alsa-driver
>     snapshot
>     >     below, first without model option?
>     >      git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git
>     >      ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/
>     >     alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz
>     >
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > I tried with the alsa-driver snapshot without any model option, and now
>     the
>     > headphones mute the speakers. But the internal microphone doesn't still
>     work,
>     > and 'Side' doesn't output sound like it did before, even if it's unmuted
>     and
>     > with volume at 100% (with the old version and without any model option,
>     it
>     > worked)
>    
>     What "Side" volume would do exactly?  It's for 7.1 output.
>     Does the machine have 7.1 output?
> 
>     Takashi
> 
> 

Re: Plugging in headphones doesn't mute speakers, internal microphone does not work

[Emilio López]

Any idea then on what's going on? I can live with having to mute the
speakers manually (the headphones seem to be controllable with 'Subwoofer'),
but having to carry an external mic when I have an integrated one is not
very good :/

I've read on forums and blogs that, for other acer versions, to make the mic
work they use position_fix=0, enable_dma=1 or things like that, but I tried
them and no luck :( can you suggest anything else?

2009/3/3 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>

> At Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:18:13 -0200,
> Emilio López wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > 'Side' is the subwoofer on my laptop (my laptop has an integrated
> subwoofer,
> > believe it or not.
>
> Hmm, then it's a wrong assignment.  "Side" shouldn't be LFE.
>
> > Acer calls it "Tuba cinebass" or something like that).
> > Apart from that, the PC has a headphones/SPDIF jack, so I believe it
> supports
> > 7.1?
>
> No, it's totally irrelevant.
> (SPDIF is 2-channel only, BTW.  Multi-channel is done via compressed
>  formats, but the physical channels are only two.)
>
>
> Takashi
>
> >
> > 2009/3/3 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> >
> >     At Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:46:04 -0200,
> >     Emilio López wrote:
> >     >
> >     > 2009/3/2 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> >     >
> >     >     At Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:38:10 -0200,
> >     >     Emilio López wrote:
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Hello,
> >     >     >
> >     >     > This is my first mail to the list, I hope you can help me. I
> have
> >     been
> >     >     > talking with people on #alsa, but they couldn't help me, so
> that's
> >     why
> >     >     > I'm writing to you.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Well, as lspci says, my Acer Aspire 6930 laptop has an "Intel
> >     >     > Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev
> 03)".
> >     With
> >     >     > this card, and without adding any mode=... to
> >     >     > /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, playback works perfectly, but when
> I
> >     plug
> >     >     > in headphones, the integrated speakers do not mute. I can
> mute the
> >     >     > speakers muting "front" and "side" and use the headphones,
> but it
> >     >     > should be automatic.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Setting mode=auto makes the headphones, when plugged, mute
> the
> >     >     > speakers. But the problem with this is, that when using the
> >     speakers,
> >     >     > I only get sound from the speaker that was "front" in the
> other
> >     mode.
> >     >     > The microphone does not work in this mode either.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > I also tried other modes, including (but not limited to)
> acer,
> >     >     > acer-aspire. I ran alsa-info.sh, here is the URL:
> >     >     > http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=
> >     >     7910da439e8e190a8c2a6f18167d4879c74881c9
> >     >     >
> >     >     > And before I forget, regarding the microphone, if I plug an
> >     external
> >     >     > one on the microphone plug, I can record. And I tried the
> internal
> >     one
> >     >     > on windows, and it works, so I believe it's an alsa problem.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Looking forward to hearing from you!
> >     >
> >     >     Could you check the very latest sound git tree or alsa-driver
> >     snapshot
> >     >     below, first without model option?
> >     >      git://
> git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git
> >     >      ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/
> >     >     alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz
> >     >
> >     > Hi,
> >     >
> >     > I tried with the alsa-driver snapshot without any model option, and
> now
> >     the
> >     > headphones mute the speakers. But the internal microphone doesn't
> still
> >     work,
> >     > and 'Side' doesn't output sound like it did before, even if it's
> unmuted
> >     and
> >     > with volume at 100% (with the old version and without any model
> option,
> >     it
> >     > worked)
> >
> >     What "Side" volume would do exactly?  It's for 7.1 output.
> >     Does the machine have 7.1 output?
> >
> >     Takashi
> >
> >
>

Re: Plugging in headphones doesn't mute speakers, internal microphone does not work

[Takashi Iwai]

At Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:28:44 -0200,
Emilio López wrote:
> 
> Any idea then on what's going on?

BIOS is crap, as always :)

> I can live with having to mute the speakers
> manually (the headphones seem to be controllable with 'Subwoofer'), but having
> to carry an external mic when I have an integrated one is not very good :/
> 
> I've read on forums and blogs that, for other acer versions, to make the mic
> work they use position_fix=0, enable_dma=1 or things like that, but I tried
> them and no luck :( can you suggest anything else?

These options are usually irrelevant if you can play back.


Takashi

Re: Plugging in headphones doesn't mute speakers, internal microphone does not work

[Emilio López]

Is there any way I can get the correct model then? lspci says:

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio
Controller (rev 03)
    Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 015e
    Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 22
    Region 0: Memory at f0700000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
    Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
        Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=55mA
PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
        Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
    Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0
Enable-
        Address: 0000000000000000  Data: 0000
    Capabilities: [70] Express (v1) Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00
        DevCap:    MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <64ns, L1
<1us
            ExtTag- RBE- FLReset+
        DevCtl:    Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal-
Unsupported-
            RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+
            MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
        DevSta:    CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr+
TransPend-
        LnkCap:    Port #0, Speed unknown, Width x0, ASPM unknown, Latency
L0 <64ns, L1 <1us
            ClockPM- Suprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
        LnkCtl:    ASPM Disabled; Disabled- Retrain- CommClk-
            ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
        LnkSta:    Speed unknown, Width x0, TrErr- Train- SlotClk- DLActive-
BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
    Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel <?>
    Capabilities: [130] Root Complex Link <?>
    Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
    Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel


And about the microphone, is there any posibility of it working?

2009/3/3 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>

> At Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:28:44 -0200,
> Emilio López wrote:
> >
> > Any idea then on what's going on?
>
> BIOS is crap, as always :)
>
> > I can live with having to mute the speakers
> > manually (the headphones seem to be controllable with 'Subwoofer'), but
> having
> > to carry an external mic when I have an integrated one is not very good
> :/
> >
> > I've read on forums and blogs that, for other acer versions, to make the
> mic
> > work they use position_fix=0, enable_dma=1 or things like that, but I
> tried
> > them and no luck :( can you suggest anything else?
>
> These options are usually irrelevant if you can play back.
>
>
> Takashi
>

Re: Plugging in headphones doesn't mute speakers, internal microphone does not work

[Takashi Iwai]

At Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:38:23 -0200,
Emilio López wrote:
> 
> Is there any way I can get the correct model then?

Write your own ones? :)


Takashi

> lspci says:
> 
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio
> Controller (rev 03)
>     Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 015e
>     Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
> Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
>     Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort-
> <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
>     Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
>     Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 22
>     Region 0: Memory at f0700000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
>     Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
>         Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=55mA PME
> (D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
>         Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
>     Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0
> Enable-
>         Address: 0000000000000000  Data: 0000
>     Capabilities: [70] Express (v1) Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00
>         DevCap:    MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <64ns, L1
> <1us
>             ExtTag- RBE- FLReset+
>         DevCtl:    Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
>             RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+
>             MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
>         DevSta:    CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr+ TransPend-
>         LnkCap:    Port #0, Speed unknown, Width x0, ASPM unknown, Latency L0
> <64ns, L1 <1us
>             ClockPM- Suprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
>         LnkCtl:    ASPM Disabled; Disabled- Retrain- CommClk-
>             ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
>         LnkSta:    Speed unknown, Width x0, TrErr- Train- SlotClk- DLActive-
> BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
>     Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel <?>
>     Capabilities: [130] Root Complex Link <?>
>     Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
>     Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
> 
> And about the microphone, is there any posibility of it working?
> 
> 2009/3/3 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> 
>     At Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:28:44 -0200,
>     Emilio López wrote:
>     >
>     > Any idea then on what's going on?
>    
>     BIOS is crap, as always :)
>    
>     > I can live with having to mute the speakers
>     > manually (the headphones seem to be controllable with 'Subwoofer'), but
>     having
>     > to carry an external mic when I have an integrated one is not very good
>     :/
>     >
>     > I've read on forums and blogs that, for other acer versions, to make the
>     mic
>     > work they use position_fix=0, enable_dma=1 or things like that, but I
>     tried
>     > them and no luck :( can you suggest anything else?
>    
>     These options are usually irrelevant if you can play back.
> 
>     Takashi
> 
>