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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] dma-buf: add peer2peer flag
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 09:13:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180420071312.GF31310@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180419081657.GA16735-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 01:16:57AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 03:38:56PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > We've broken that assumption in i915 years ago. Not struct page backed
> > gpu memory is very real.
> >
> > Of course we'll never feed such a strange sg table to a driver which
> > doesn't understand it, but allowing sg_page == NULL works perfectly
> > fine. At least for gpu drivers.
>
> For GPU drivers on x86 with no dma coherency problems, sure. But not
> all the world is x86. We already have problems due to dmabugs use
> of the awkward get_sgtable interface (see the common on
> arm_dma_get_sgtable that I fully agree with), and doing this for memory
> that doesn't have a struct page at all will make things even worse.
x86 dma isn't coherent either, if you're a GPU :-) Flushing gpu caches
tends to be too expensive, so there's pci-e support and chipset support to
forgo it. Plus drivers flushing caches themselves.
The dma_get_sgtable thing is indeed fun, right solution would probably be
to push the dma-buf export down into the dma layer. The comment for
arm_dma_get_sgtable is also not a realy concern, because dma-buf also
abstracts away the flushing (or well is supposed to), so there really
shouldn't be anyone calling the streaming apis on the returned sg table.
That's why dma-buf gives you an sg table that's mapped already.
> > If that's not acceptable then I guess we could go over the entire tree
> > and frob all the gpu related code to switch over to a new struct
> > sg_table_might_not_be_struct_page_backed, including all the other
> > functions we added over the past few years to iterate over sg tables.
> > But seems slightly silly, given that sg tables seem to do exactly what
> > we need.
>
> It isn't silly. We will have to do some surgery like that anyway
> because the current APIs don't work. So relax, sit back and come up
> with an API that solves the existing issues and serves us well in
> the future.
So we should just implement a copy of sg table for dma-buf, since I still
think it does exactly what we need for gpus?
Yes there's a bit a layering violation insofar that drivers really
shouldn't each have their own copy of "how do I convert a piece of dma
memory into dma-buf", but that doesn't render the interface a bad idea.
-Daniel
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Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-25 10:59 [PATCH 1/8] lib/scatterlist: add sg_set_dma_addr() helper Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 4/8] dma-buf: add peer2peer flag Christian König
[not found] ` <20180325110000.2238-4-christian.koenig-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-29 6:57 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <20180329065753.GD3881-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-29 11:34 ` Christian König
[not found] ` <8b823458-8bdc-3217-572b-509a28aae742-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-03 9:09 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <20180403090909.GN3881-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-03 17:06 ` Jerome Glisse
[not found] ` <20180403170645.GB5935-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-03 18:08 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-16 12:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20180416123937.GA9073-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-16 13:38 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-19 8:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20180419081657.GA16735-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-20 7:13 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
[not found] ` <20180420071312.GF31310-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-20 8:58 ` Christian König
2018-04-20 10:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20180420101755.GA11400-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-20 10:44 ` Christian König
2018-04-20 12:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-20 15:21 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Daniel Vetter
2018-04-24 18:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-24 19:32 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 5:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20180425054855.GA17038-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 6:10 ` Alex Deucher
2018-04-25 6:13 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 6:23 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 6:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20180425064335.GB28100-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 7:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 7:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20180425070905.GA24827-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 7:30 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 7:56 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 8:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 7:43 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 7:41 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 8:54 ` noveau vs arm dma ops Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 9:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-25 10:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 15:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20180425153312.GD27076-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 21:35 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 23:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20180425232646.GR16141-l+eeeJia6m9URfEZ8mYm6t73F7V6hmMc@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 9:17 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-26 9:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20180426090942.GA18811-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 9:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-26 11:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-25 22:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-26 9:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26 9:20 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <CAKMK7uG9R6paoP4BmvqDVUP_4Db4Dz8MSXeLwUBMYaORa5-kVw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 9:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26 9:39 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <CAKMK7uEFitkNQrD6cLX5Txe11XhVO=LC4YKJXH=VNdq+CY=DjQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 6:24 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH 4/8] dma-buf: add peer2peer flag Alex Deucher
2018-04-25 6:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20180425064118.GA28100-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 17:44 ` Alex Deucher
2018-04-25 18:38 ` Dan Williams
2018-05-04 12:45 ` Lucas Stach
[not found] ` <20180325110000.2238-1-christian.koenig-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 2/8] PCI: Add pci_find_common_upstream_dev() Christian König
2018-03-28 12:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20180328123830.GB25060-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-28 15:07 ` Christian König
2018-03-28 15:47 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-28 16:02 ` Christian König
2018-03-28 16:25 ` Logan Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <16c7bef8-5f03-9e89-1f50-b62fb139a36f-OTvnGxWRz7hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-28 18:28 ` Christian König
2018-03-28 18:57 ` Logan Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <e751cd28-f115-569f-5248-d24f30dee3cb-OTvnGxWRz7hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-28 19:44 ` Christian König
2018-03-28 19:53 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-29 11:44 ` Christian König
2018-03-29 15:45 ` Logan Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <98ce6cfd-bcf3-811e-a0f1-757b60da467a-OTvnGxWRz7hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-29 16:10 ` Christian König
2018-03-29 16:25 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-29 18:15 ` Christian König
2018-03-30 1:58 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-30 6:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-03-30 15:25 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-30 18:46 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-30 19:45 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 17:02 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 17:20 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 17:37 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 19:16 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 19:32 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 19:45 ` Jerome Glisse
[not found] ` <CADnq5_P-z=Noos_jaME9_CERri3C-m2hPPvx2bArr36O=1FnrA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-03-29 14:37 ` Alex Deucher
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 3/8] PCI: Add pci_peer_traffic_supported() Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 5/8] drm/amdgpu: print DMA-buf status in debugfs Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 6/8] drm/amdgpu: note that we can handle peer2peer DMA-buf Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 7/8] drm/amdgpu: add amdgpu_gem_attach Christian König
2018-03-25 11:00 ` [PATCH 8/8] drm/amdgpu: add support for exporting VRAM using DMA-buf Christian König
2018-03-28 12:37 ` [PATCH 1/8] lib/scatterlist: add sg_set_dma_addr() helper Christoph Hellwig
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