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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"moderated list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
	<linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>,
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	"Jerome Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Logan Gunthorpe" <logang@deltatee.com>,
	"open list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
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Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH 4/8] dma-buf: add peer2peer flag
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:48:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180424184847.GA3247@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180420152111.GR31310@phenom.ffwll.local>

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 05:21:11PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > At the very lowest level they will need to be handled differently for
> > many architectures, the questions is at what point we'll do the
> > branching out.
> 
> Having at least struct page also in that list with (dma_addr_t, lenght)
> pairs has a bunch of benefits for drivers in unifying buffer handling
> code. You just pass that one single list around, use the dma_addr_t side
> for gpu access (generally bashing it into gpu ptes). And the struct page
> (if present) for cpu access, using kmap or vm_insert_*. We generally
> ignore virt, if we do need a full mapping then we construct a vmap for
> that buffer of our own.

Well, for mapping a resource (which gets back to the start of the
discussion) you will need an explicit virt pointer.  You also need
an explicit virt pointer and not just page_address/kmap for users of
dma_get_sgtable, because for many architectures you will need to flush
the virtual address used to access the data, which might be a
vmap/ioremap style mapping retourned from dma_alloc_address, and not
the directly mapped kernel address.

Here is another idea at the low-level dma API level:

 - dma_get_sgtable goes away.  The replacement is a new
   dma_alloc_remap helper that takes the virtual address returned
   from dma_alloc_attrs/coherent and creates a dma_addr_t for the
   given new device.  If the original allocation was a coherent
   one no cache flushing is required either (because the arch
   made sure it is coherent), if the original allocation used
   DMA_ATTR_NON_CONSISTENT the new allocation will need
   dma_cache_sync calls as well.
 - you never even try to share a mapping retourned from
   dma_map_resource - instead each device using it creates a new
   mapping, which makes sense as no virtual addresses are involved
   at all.

> So maybe a list of (struct page *, dma_addr_t, num_pages) would suit best,
> with struct page * being optional (if it's a resource, or something else
> that the kernel core mm isn't aware of). But that only has benefits if we
> really roll it out everywhere, in all the subsystems and drivers, since if
> we don't we've made the struct pages ** <-> sgt conversion fun only worse
> by adding a 3 representation of gpu buffer object backing storage.

I think the most important thing about such a buffer object is that
it can distinguish the underlying mapping types.  While
dma_alloc_coherent, dma_alloc_attrs with DMA_ATTR_NON_CONSISTENT,
dma_map_page/dma_map_single/dma_map_sg and dma_map_resource all give
back a dma_addr_t they are in now way interchangable.  And trying to
stuff them all into a structure like struct scatterlist that has
no indication what kind of mapping you are dealing with is just
asking for trouble.
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-24 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-25 10:59 [PATCH 1/8] lib/scatterlist: add sg_set_dma_addr() helper Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 4/8] dma-buf: add peer2peer flag Christian König
     [not found]   ` <20180325110000.2238-4-christian.koenig-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-29  6:57     ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]       ` <20180329065753.GD3881-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-29 11:34         ` Christian König
     [not found]           ` <8b823458-8bdc-3217-572b-509a28aae742-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-03  9:09             ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]               ` <20180403090909.GN3881-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-03 17:06                 ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                   ` <20180403170645.GB5935-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-03 18:08                     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-16 12:39                       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                         ` <20180416123937.GA9073-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-16 13:38                           ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-19  8:16                             ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                               ` <20180419081657.GA16735-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-20  7:13                                 ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                                   ` <20180420071312.GF31310-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-20  8:58                                     ` Christian König
2018-04-20 10:17                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                         ` <20180420101755.GA11400-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-20 10:44                                           ` Christian König
2018-04-20 12:46                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-20 15:21                                               ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Daniel Vetter
2018-04-24 18:48                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2018-04-24 19:32                                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  5:48                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                                       ` <20180425054855.GA17038-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25  6:10                                                         ` Alex Deucher
2018-04-25  6:13                                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  6:23                                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  6:43                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                                             ` <20180425064335.GB28100-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25  7:02                                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  7:09                                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20180425070905.GA24827-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25  7:30                                                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  7:56                                                                       ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25  8:55                                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25  7:43                                                                   ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25  7:41                                                             ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25  8:54                                                               ` noveau vs arm dma ops Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25  9:25                                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-25 10:04                                                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 15:33                                                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20180425153312.GD27076-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 21:35                                                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 23:26                                                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20180425232646.GR16141-l+eeeJia6m9URfEZ8mYm6t73F7V6hmMc@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26  9:17                                                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-26  9:09                                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20180426090942.GA18811-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26  9:45                                                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-26 11:12                                                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-25 22:54                                                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-26  9:13                                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26  9:20                                                                       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                                                                         ` <CAKMK7uG9R6paoP4BmvqDVUP_4Db4Dz8MSXeLwUBMYaORa5-kVw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26  9:24                                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26  9:39                                                                             ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                                                         ` <CAKMK7uEFitkNQrD6cLX5Txe11XhVO=LC4YKJXH=VNdq+CY=DjQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25  6:24                                                           ` [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH 4/8] dma-buf: add peer2peer flag Alex Deucher
2018-04-25  6:41                                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                                               ` <20180425064118.GA28100-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 17:44                                                                 ` Alex Deucher
2018-04-25 18:38                                                                   ` Dan Williams
2018-05-04 12:45                                                                   ` Lucas Stach
     [not found] ` <20180325110000.2238-1-christian.koenig-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-25 10:59   ` [PATCH 2/8] PCI: Add pci_find_common_upstream_dev() Christian König
2018-03-28 12:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <20180328123830.GB25060-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-28 15:07         ` Christian König
2018-03-28 15:47           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-28 16:02             ` Christian König
2018-03-28 16:25               ` Logan Gunthorpe
     [not found]                 ` <16c7bef8-5f03-9e89-1f50-b62fb139a36f-OTvnGxWRz7hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-28 18:28                   ` Christian König
2018-03-28 18:57                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
     [not found]                       ` <e751cd28-f115-569f-5248-d24f30dee3cb-OTvnGxWRz7hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-28 19:44                         ` Christian König
2018-03-28 19:53                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-29 11:44                             ` Christian König
2018-03-29 15:45                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                 ` <98ce6cfd-bcf3-811e-a0f1-757b60da467a-OTvnGxWRz7hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-29 16:10                                   ` Christian König
2018-03-29 16:25                                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-29 18:15                                       ` Christian König
2018-03-30  1:58                                       ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-30  6:33                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-03-30 15:25                                           ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-30 18:46                                         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-30 19:45                                           ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 17:02                                             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 17:20                                               ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 17:37                                                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 19:16                                                   ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 19:32                                                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 19:45                                                       ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                             ` <CADnq5_P-z=Noos_jaME9_CERri3C-m2hPPvx2bArr36O=1FnrA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-03-29 14:37                               ` Alex Deucher
2018-03-25 10:59   ` [PATCH 3/8] PCI: Add pci_peer_traffic_supported() Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59   ` [PATCH 5/8] drm/amdgpu: print DMA-buf status in debugfs Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59   ` [PATCH 6/8] drm/amdgpu: note that we can handle peer2peer DMA-buf Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59   ` [PATCH 7/8] drm/amdgpu: add amdgpu_gem_attach Christian König
2018-03-25 11:00   ` [PATCH 8/8] drm/amdgpu: add support for exporting VRAM using DMA-buf Christian König
2018-03-28 12:37 ` [PATCH 1/8] lib/scatterlist: add sg_set_dma_addr() helper Christoph Hellwig

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