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From: Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Koenig, Christian" <Christian.Koenig-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Deucher,
	Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied-cv59FeDIM0c@public.gmane.org>,
	"amd-gfx-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org"
	<amd-gfx-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org>,
	"dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org"
	<dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel-/w4YWyX8dFk@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13] drm/amdgpu: introduce and honour DRM_FORCE_AUTH workaround
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 16:32:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190527153226.GK15067@arch-x1c3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0426fb3e-e7bc-2464-cb42-4d5753956d23-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>

On 2019/05/27, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 27.05.19 um 15:26 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/05/27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:47:39AM +0000, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >>> Am 27.05.19 um 10:17 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>>> From: Emil Velikov <emil.velikov@collabora.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> Currently one can circumvent DRM_AUTH, when the ioctl is exposed via the
> >>>> render node. A seemingly deliberate design decision.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hence we can drop the DRM_AUTH all together (details in follow-up patch)
> >>>> yet not all userspace checks if it's authenticated, but instead uses
> >>>> uncommon assumptions.
> >>>>
> >>>> After days of digging through git log and testing, only a single (ab)use
> >>>> was spotted - the Mesa RADV driver, using the AMDGPU_INFO ioctl and
> >>>> assuming that failure implies lack of authentication.
> >>>>
> >>>> Affected versions are:
> >>>>    - the whole 18.2.x series, which is EOL
> >>>>    - the whole 18.3.x series, which is EOL
> >>>>    - the 19.0.x series, prior to 19.0.4
> >>> Well you could have saved your time, cause this is still a NAK.
> >>>
> >>> For the record: I strongly think that we don't want to expose any render
> >>> functionality on the primary node.
> >>>
> >>> To even go a step further I would say that at least on AMD hardware we
> >>> should completely disable DRI2 for one of the next generations.
> >>>
> >>> As a follow up I would then completely disallow the DRM authentication
> >>> for amdgpu, so that the command submission interface on the primary node
> >>> can only be used by the display server.
> >> So amdgpu is running in one direction, while everyone else is running in
> >> the other direction? Please note that your patch to change i915 landed
> >> already, so that ship is sailing (but we could ofc revert that back
> >> again).
> >>
> >> Imo really not a great idea if we do a amdgpu vs. everyone else split
> >> here. If we want to deprecate dri2/flink/rendering on primary nodes across
> >> the stack, then that should be a stack wide decision, not an amdgpu one.
> >>
> > Cannot agree more - I would love to see drivers stay consistent.
> 
> Yeah, completely agree to that. That's why I think we should not do this 
> at all and just let Intel fix it's userspace bugs :P
> 
Pretty sure I mentioned it before - might have been too subtle:

The problem is _neither_ Intel nor libva specific.


> Anyway my concern is really that we should stop extending functionality 
> on the primary node.
> 
> E.g. the render node is for use by the clients and the primary node for 
> mode setting and use by the display server only.
> 
Fully agreed. I'm not extending anything really. If anything - code is
removed from drivers and core :-)

Thanks
Emil
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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-27  8:17 [PATCH 01/13] drm/amdgpu: introduce and honour DRM_FORCE_AUTH workaround Emil Velikov
     [not found] ` <20190527081741.14235-1-emil.l.velikov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-27  8:17   ` [PATCH 02/13] drm/amdgpu: drop DRM_AUTH usage from the driver Emil Velikov
2019-05-27  8:17   ` [PATCH 10/13] drm/radeon: drop DRM_AUTH from DRM_RENDER_ALLOW ioctls Emil Velikov
2019-05-27 10:47   ` [PATCH 01/13] drm/amdgpu: introduce and honour DRM_FORCE_AUTH workaround Koenig, Christian
     [not found]     ` <3c9b5688-5e83-f173-00e3-6e139e05d466-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-27 12:05       ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-27 12:20         ` Koenig, Christian
2019-05-27 12:52           ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-27 13:26             ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-27 13:34               ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-27 13:20     ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]       ` <20190527132041.GP21222-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-27 13:26         ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-27 13:42           ` Koenig, Christian
     [not found]             ` <0426fb3e-e7bc-2464-cb42-4d5753956d23-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-27 15:26               ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                 ` <CAKMK7uE_pRro8PxTwUq+pC_1GVVT7nUxan1T-kqSYT=BMHTf2g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-28  6:58                   ` Koenig, Christian
     [not found]                     ` <d12a7dd4-595b-d0aa-a87d-527392fb0384-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-28  7:38                       ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                         ` <CAKMK7uE1ZWjCeg3q7qDrbcj89+DuPQwfjMqC8hTjDAMU5bhh-w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-28  8:03                           ` Koenig, Christian
     [not found]                             ` <98c3d891-6966-2043-9709-4e718dbc6bac-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-28  8:18                               ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                                 ` <CAKMK7uGsc7WzBBrfxape4Yy7fbKoDFH5J2F87Kx=7rE1+pXcXw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-28 16:10                                   ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-28 16:22                                     ` Koenig, Christian
2019-05-28 16:46                                       ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-28 20:05                                         ` Dave Airlie
     [not found]                                           ` <CAPM=9tzuQX4iQU=w4QfbE1ryq6sXc4k5SVh6V1_4AyH_O+D_oA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-29 13:03                                             ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-29 13:14                                               ` Koenig, Christian
2019-05-29 16:29                                                 ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-31 12:20                                                   ` Koenig, Christian
2019-06-04 17:59                                                     ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-04 10:50                               ` Michel Dänzer
     [not found]                                 ` <ee1b8980-3d78-aa6d-fe46-2c0d45c2bbdd-otUistvHUpPR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-04 11:24                                   ` Koenig, Christian
2019-06-04 13:28                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-27 15:32               ` Emil Velikov [this message]
2019-05-27 13:11   ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]     ` <20190527131143.GN21222-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-27 13:47       ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-14 12:09 ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-14 12:55   ` Koenig, Christian
     [not found]     ` <9dbdda6c-8916-e5ae-1676-86828b9890e7-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-14 14:16       ` Michel Dänzer
2019-06-14 15:53       ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-14 16:00         ` Koenig, Christian
     [not found]           ` <84b3337c-0cdc-44d4-02c6-c56bd729ed47-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-14 16:25             ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-20 16:30           ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-21  7:12             ` Koenig, Christian
     [not found]               ` <9cad6e74-4751-0b0a-35d1-e8f0ac4d3efc-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21  7:41                 ` Michel Dänzer
2019-06-21  8:23                   ` Koenig, Christian
2019-06-21  9:09               ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-21  9:25                 ` Koenig, Christian
     [not found]                   ` <be9f38f5-6bb5-9535-f3d9-bafa83370e0f-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21  9:35                     ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                       ` <CAKMK7uE5qO4q3RYNDp22gkMSSJGgz9ChxhuWPYqXO6D1UUvy6Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 10:16                         ` Christian König
2019-06-21 10:20                       ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-21 10:31                         ` Koenig, Christian
     [not found]                           ` <d241fab3-b6f0-d38a-b83f-03b70736b355-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 10:53                             ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-21 11:07                               ` Koenig, Christian
     [not found]                                 ` <338bb519-05f1-cb76-d965-81237f432937-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 11:58                                   ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-21 12:13                                     ` Koenig, Christian
     [not found]                                       ` <76158d1f-676d-2afa-244b-934967a9cb75-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 12:47                                         ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-21 13:00                                           ` Koenig, Christian
2019-06-21 15:37                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-21 15:24                                     ` Michel Dänzer
2019-06-21 11:03                           ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                             ` <CAKMK7uEVziNZJES9=JFBUu=LpmubS8=-A654cMN+QqhEmc8Fvw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 11:37                               ` Christian König
     [not found]                                 ` <c92dc683-6815-dc5a-dc2b-54517cc027de-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 11:50                                   ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                                     ` <CAKMK7uHsv3HOXOQq=GGRkx6f+ssRg7dO7qEoBqRS9V_KiTN3Hg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 11:59                                       ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                                         ` <CAKMK7uG+EUhmZafFmjzSR=eq7543OELbHVaQnZZQGx0APSozwg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 12:01                                           ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-21 15:15                                       ` Michel Dänzer
     [not found]                                         ` <b182c8e3-c060-71f0-2b3b-62600d825c9f-otUistvHUpPR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 15:44                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-21 15:52                                             ` Michel Dänzer
     [not found]                                               ` <13024821-4767-eeaf-86eb-9ae1056f8931-otUistvHUpPR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-24  9:37                                                 ` Michel Dänzer
     [not found]                                                   ` <b03e8977-c51a-9606-383f-cf4ba674dcdd-otUistvHUpPR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-24  9:48                                                     ` Daniel Vetter

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