From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: "Koenig, Christian" <Christian.Koenig@amd.com>
Cc: David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com>,
"amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org" <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13] drm/amdgpu: introduce and honour DRM_FORCE_AUTH workaround
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 11:09:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190621090953.GZ12905@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9cad6e74-4751-0b0a-35d1-e8f0ac4d3efc@amd.com>
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 07:12:14AM +0000, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 20.06.19 um 18:30 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >> Am 14.06.19 um 17:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>> On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >>>> Am 14.06.19 um 14:09 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>>>> On 2019/05/27, Emil Velikov wrote:
> >>>>> [SNIP]
> >>>>> Hi Christian,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the following, I would like to summarise and emphasize the need for
> >>>>> DRM_AUTH removal. I would kindly ask you to spend a couple of minutes
> >>>>> extra reading it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Today DRM drivers* do not make any distinction between primary and
> >>>>> render node clients.
> >>>> That is actually not 100% correct. We have a special case where a DRM
> >>>> master is allowed to change the priority of render node clients.
> >>>>
> >>> Can you provide a link? I cannot find that code.
> >> See amdgpu_sched_ioctl().
> >>
> >>>>> Thus for a render capable driver, any premise of
> >>>>> separation, security or otherwise imposed via DRM_AUTH is a fallacy.
> >>>> Yeah, that's what I agree on. I just don't think that removing DRM_AUTH
> >>>> now is the right direction to take.
> >>>>
> >>> Could have been clearer - I'm talking about DRM_AUTH | DRM_RENDER_ALLOW
> >>> ioctls.
> >>>
> >>> That aside, can you propose an alternative solution that addresses this
> >>> and the second point just below?
> >> Give me a few days to work on this, it's already Friday 6pm here.
> >>
> > Hi Christian,
> >
> > Any progress? As mentioned earlier, I'm OK with writing the patches although
> > I would love to hear your plan.
>
> First of all I tried to disable DRM authentication completely with a
> kernel config option. Surprisingly that actually works out of the box at
> least on the AMDGPU stack.
>
> This effectively allows us to get rid of DRI2 and the related security
> problems. Only thing left for that is that I'm just not sure how to
> signal this to userspace so that the DDX wouldn't advertise DRI2 at all
> any more.
>
>
> As a next step I looked into if we can disable the command submission
> for DRM master. Turned out that this is relatively easy as well.
>
> All we have to do is to fix the bug Michel pointed out about KMS handles
> for display and let the DDX use a render node instead of the DRM master
> for Glamor. Still need to sync up with Michel and/or Marek whats the
> best way of doing this.
>
>
> The last step (and that's what I haven't tried yet) would be to disable
> DRM authentication for Navi even when it is still compiled into the
> kernel. But that is more or less just a typing exercise.
So just to get this straight, we're now full on embracing a subsystem
split here:
- amdgpu plans to ditch dri2/rendering on primary nodes
- bunch of drivers (I think more than i915 by now) merged the DRM_AUTH
removal
- others are just hanging in there somehow
"best of both^W worlds" ftw?
-Daniel
--
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
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2019-05-27 8:17 [PATCH 01/13] drm/amdgpu: introduce and honour DRM_FORCE_AUTH workaround Emil Velikov
[not found] ` <20190527081741.14235-1-emil.l.velikov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-27 8:17 ` [PATCH 02/13] drm/amdgpu: drop DRM_AUTH usage from the driver Emil Velikov
2019-05-27 8:17 ` [PATCH 10/13] drm/radeon: drop DRM_AUTH from DRM_RENDER_ALLOW ioctls Emil Velikov
2019-05-27 10:47 ` [PATCH 01/13] drm/amdgpu: introduce and honour DRM_FORCE_AUTH workaround Koenig, Christian
[not found] ` <3c9b5688-5e83-f173-00e3-6e139e05d466-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-27 12:05 ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-27 12:20 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-05-27 12:52 ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-27 13:26 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-27 13:34 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-27 13:20 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <20190527132041.GP21222-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-27 13:26 ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-27 13:42 ` Koenig, Christian
[not found] ` <0426fb3e-e7bc-2464-cb42-4d5753956d23-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-27 15:26 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <CAKMK7uE_pRro8PxTwUq+pC_1GVVT7nUxan1T-kqSYT=BMHTf2g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-28 6:58 ` Koenig, Christian
[not found] ` <d12a7dd4-595b-d0aa-a87d-527392fb0384-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-28 7:38 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <CAKMK7uE1ZWjCeg3q7qDrbcj89+DuPQwfjMqC8hTjDAMU5bhh-w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-28 8:03 ` Koenig, Christian
[not found] ` <98c3d891-6966-2043-9709-4e718dbc6bac-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-28 8:18 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <CAKMK7uGsc7WzBBrfxape4Yy7fbKoDFH5J2F87Kx=7rE1+pXcXw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-28 16:10 ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-28 16:22 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-05-28 16:46 ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-28 20:05 ` Dave Airlie
[not found] ` <CAPM=9tzuQX4iQU=w4QfbE1ryq6sXc4k5SVh6V1_4AyH_O+D_oA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-29 13:03 ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-29 13:14 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-05-29 16:29 ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-31 12:20 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-06-04 17:59 ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-04 10:50 ` Michel Dänzer
[not found] ` <ee1b8980-3d78-aa6d-fe46-2c0d45c2bbdd-otUistvHUpPR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-04 11:24 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-06-04 13:28 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-27 15:32 ` Emil Velikov
2019-05-27 13:11 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <20190527131143.GN21222-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-27 13:47 ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-14 12:09 ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-14 12:55 ` Koenig, Christian
[not found] ` <9dbdda6c-8916-e5ae-1676-86828b9890e7-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-14 14:16 ` Michel Dänzer
2019-06-14 15:53 ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-14 16:00 ` Koenig, Christian
[not found] ` <84b3337c-0cdc-44d4-02c6-c56bd729ed47-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-14 16:25 ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-20 16:30 ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-21 7:12 ` Koenig, Christian
[not found] ` <9cad6e74-4751-0b0a-35d1-e8f0ac4d3efc-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 7:41 ` Michel Dänzer
2019-06-21 8:23 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-06-21 9:09 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2019-06-21 9:25 ` Koenig, Christian
[not found] ` <be9f38f5-6bb5-9535-f3d9-bafa83370e0f-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 9:35 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <CAKMK7uE5qO4q3RYNDp22gkMSSJGgz9ChxhuWPYqXO6D1UUvy6Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 10:16 ` Christian König
2019-06-21 10:20 ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-21 10:31 ` Koenig, Christian
[not found] ` <d241fab3-b6f0-d38a-b83f-03b70736b355-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 10:53 ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-21 11:07 ` Koenig, Christian
[not found] ` <338bb519-05f1-cb76-d965-81237f432937-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 11:58 ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-21 12:13 ` Koenig, Christian
[not found] ` <76158d1f-676d-2afa-244b-934967a9cb75-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 12:47 ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-21 13:00 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-06-21 15:37 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-21 15:24 ` Michel Dänzer
2019-06-21 11:03 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <CAKMK7uEVziNZJES9=JFBUu=LpmubS8=-A654cMN+QqhEmc8Fvw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 11:37 ` Christian König
[not found] ` <c92dc683-6815-dc5a-dc2b-54517cc027de-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 11:50 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <CAKMK7uHsv3HOXOQq=GGRkx6f+ssRg7dO7qEoBqRS9V_KiTN3Hg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 11:59 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <CAKMK7uG+EUhmZafFmjzSR=eq7543OELbHVaQnZZQGx0APSozwg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 12:01 ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-21 15:15 ` Michel Dänzer
[not found] ` <b182c8e3-c060-71f0-2b3b-62600d825c9f-otUistvHUpPR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-21 15:44 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-21 15:52 ` Michel Dänzer
[not found] ` <13024821-4767-eeaf-86eb-9ae1056f8931-otUistvHUpPR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-24 9:37 ` Michel Dänzer
[not found] ` <b03e8977-c51a-9606-383f-cf4ba674dcdd-otUistvHUpPR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-24 9:48 ` Daniel Vetter
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