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From: Andrey Grodzovsky <Andrey.Grodzovsky@amd.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: robh@kernel.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	eric@anholt.net, ppaalanen@gmail.com, yuq825@gmail.com,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, Alexander.Deucher@amd.com,
	Harry.Wentland@amd.com, l.stach@pengutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/12] drm: Add dummy page per device or GEM object
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 09:46:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <29ef0c97-ac1b-a8e6-ee57-16727ff1803e@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b73319b2-1723-6650-8d03-d8f775119e53@amd.com>

Daniel had some objections to this (see bellow) and so I guess I need you both 
to agree on the approach before I proceed.

Andrey

On 1/8/21 9:33 AM, Christian König wrote:
> Am 08.01.21 um 15:26 schrieb Andrey Grodzovsky:
>> Hey Christian, just a ping.
>
> Was there any question for me here?
>
> As far as I can see the best approach would still be to fill the VMA with a 
> single dummy page and avoid pointers in the GEM object.
>
> Christian.
>
>>
>> Andrey
>>
>> On 1/7/21 11:37 AM, Andrey Grodzovsky wrote:
>>>
>>> On 1/7/21 11:30 AM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 11:26:52AM -0500, Andrey Grodzovsky wrote:
>>>>> On 1/7/21 11:21 AM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 04:04:16PM -0500, Andrey Grodzovsky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/23/20 3:01 AM, Christian König wrote:
>>>>>>>> Am 23.11.20 um 05:54 schrieb Andrey Grodzovsky:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/20 9:15 AM, Christian König wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Am 21.11.20 um 06:21 schrieb Andrey Grodzovsky:
>>>>>>>>>>> Will be used to reroute CPU mapped BO's page faults once
>>>>>>>>>>> device is removed.
>>>>>>>>>> Uff, one page for each exported DMA-buf? That's not something we can do.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We need to find a different approach here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can't we call alloc_page() on each fault and link them together
>>>>>>>>>> so they are freed when the device is finally reaped?
>>>>>>>>> For sure better to optimize and allocate on demand when we reach
>>>>>>>>> this corner case, but why the linking ?
>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't drm_prime_gem_destroy be good enough place to free ?
>>>>>>>> I want to avoid keeping the page in the GEM object.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What we can do is to allocate a page on demand for each fault and link
>>>>>>>> the together in the bdev instead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And when the bdev is then finally destroyed after the last application
>>>>>>>> closed we can finally release all of them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Christian.
>>>>>>> Hey, started to implement this and then realized that by allocating a page
>>>>>>> for each fault indiscriminately
>>>>>>> we will be allocating a new page for each faulting virtual address within a
>>>>>>> VA range belonging the same BO
>>>>>>> and this is obviously too much and not the intention. Should I instead use
>>>>>>> let's say a hashtable with the hash
>>>>>>> key being faulting BO address to actually keep allocating and reusing same
>>>>>>> dummy zero page per GEM BO
>>>>>>> (or for that matter DRM file object address for non imported BOs) ?
>>>>>> Why do we need a hashtable? All the sw structures to track this should
>>>>>> still be around:
>>>>>> - if gem_bo->dma_buf is set the buffer is currently exported as a dma-buf,
>>>>>>     so defensively allocate a per-bo page
>>>>>> - otherwise allocate a per-file page
>>>>>
>>>>> That exactly what we have in current implementation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or is the idea to save the struct page * pointer? That feels a bit like
>>>>>> over-optimizing stuff. Better to have a simple implementation first and
>>>>>> then tune it if (and only if) any part of it becomes a problem for normal
>>>>>> usage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly - the idea is to avoid adding extra pointer to drm_gem_object,
>>>>> Christian suggested to instead keep a linked list of dummy pages to be
>>>>> allocated on demand once we hit a vm_fault. I will then also prefault the 
>>>>> entire
>>>>> VA range from vma->vm_end - vma->vm_start to vma->vm_end and map them
>>>>> to that single dummy page.
>>>> This strongly feels like premature optimization. If you're worried about
>>>> the overhead on amdgpu, pay down the debt by removing one of the redundant
>>>> pointers between gem and ttm bo structs (I think we still have some) :-)
>>>>
>>>> Until we've nuked these easy&obvious ones we shouldn't play "avoid 1
>>>> pointer just because" games with hashtables.
>>>> -Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, if you and Christian can agree on this approach and suggest maybe what 
>>> pointer is
>>> redundant and can be removed from GEM struct so we can use the 'credit' to 
>>> add the dummy page
>>> to GEM I will be happy to follow through.
>>>
>>> P.S Hash table is off the table anyway and we are talking only about linked 
>>> list here since by prefaulting
>>> the entire VA range for a vmf->vma i will be avoiding redundant page faults 
>>> to same VMA VA range and so
>>> don't need to search and reuse an existing dummy page but simply create a 
>>> new one for each next fault.
>>>
>>> Andrey
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-08 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-21  5:21 [PATCH v3 00/12] RFC Support hot device unplug in amdgpu Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-21  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] drm: Add dummy page per device or GEM object Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-21 14:15   ` Christian König
2020-11-23  4:54     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-23  8:01       ` Christian König
2021-01-05 21:04         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-07 16:21           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-07 16:26             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-07 16:28               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-07 16:30               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-07 16:37                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-08 14:26                   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-08 14:33                     ` Christian König
2021-01-08 14:46                       ` Andrey Grodzovsky [this message]
2021-01-08 14:52                         ` Christian König
2021-01-08 16:49                           ` Grodzovsky, Andrey
2021-01-11 16:13                             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-11 16:15                               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-11 17:41                                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-11 20:45                                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-12  9:10                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-12 12:32                                     ` Christian König
2021-01-12 15:59                                       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-13  9:14                                         ` Christian König
2021-01-13 14:40                                           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-12 15:54                                     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-12  8:12                               ` Christian König
2021-01-12  9:13                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-21  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] drm: Unamp the entire device address space on device unplug Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-21 14:16   ` Christian König
2020-11-24 14:44     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-21  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] drm/ttm: Remap all page faults to per process dummy page Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-21  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] drm/ttm: Set dma addr to null after freee Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-21 14:13   ` Christian König
2020-11-23  5:15     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-23  8:04       ` Christian König
2020-11-21  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] drm/ttm: Expose ttm_tt_unpopulate for driver use Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-25 10:42   ` Christian König
2020-11-23 20:05     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-23 20:20       ` Christian König
2020-11-23 20:38         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-23 20:41           ` Christian König
2020-11-23 21:08             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-24  7:41               ` Christian König
2020-11-24 16:22                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-24 16:44                   ` Christian König
2020-11-25 10:40                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-25 12:57                       ` Christian König
2020-11-25 16:36                         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-25 19:34                           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-27 13:10                             ` Grodzovsky, Andrey
2020-11-27 14:59                             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-27 16:04                               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-30 14:15                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-25 16:56                         ` Michel Dänzer
2020-11-25 17:02                           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-12-15 20:18                     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-12-16  8:04                       ` Christian König
2020-12-16 14:21                         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-12-16 16:13                           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-12-16 16:18                             ` Christian König
2020-12-16 17:12                               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-12-16 17:20                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-12-16 18:26                                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-12-16 23:15                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-12-17  0:20                                     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-12-17 12:01                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-12-17 19:19                                         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-12-17 20:10                                           ` Christian König
2020-12-17 20:38                                             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-12-17 20:48                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-12-17 21:06                                                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-12-18 14:30                                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-12-17 20:42                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-12-17 21:13                                             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-04 16:33                                               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-21  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] drm/sched: Cancel and flush all oustatdning jobs before finish Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-22 11:56   ` Christian König
2020-11-21  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] drm/sched: Prevent any job recoveries after device is unplugged Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-22 11:57   ` Christian König
2020-11-23  5:37     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-23  8:06       ` Christian König
2020-11-24  1:12         ` Luben Tuikov
2020-11-24  7:50           ` Christian König
2020-11-24 17:11             ` Luben Tuikov
2020-11-24 17:17               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-24 17:41                 ` Luben Tuikov
2020-11-24 17:40               ` Christian König
2020-11-24 17:44                 ` Luben Tuikov
2020-11-21  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] drm/amdgpu: Split amdgpu_device_fini into early and late Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-24 14:53   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-24 15:51     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-25 10:41       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-25 17:41         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-21  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] drm/amdgpu: Add early fini callback Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-21  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] drm/amdgpu: Avoid sysfs dirs removal post device unplug Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-24 14:49   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-24 22:27     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-25  9:04       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-25 17:39         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-27 13:12           ` Grodzovsky, Andrey
2020-11-27 15:04           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-27 15:34             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-21  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] drm/amdgpu: Register IOMMU topology notifier per device Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-21  5:21 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] drm/amdgpu: Fix a bunch of sdma code crash post device unplug Andrey Grodzovsky

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