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From: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"open list:AMD IOMMU (AMD-VI)" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	Jatin Kataria <jkataria@netflix.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqunf@netflix.com>,
	"Derek J . Clark" <derekjohn.clark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] iommu/amd: Add PerfOpt IOMMU performance optimization support
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2026 08:11:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4560d7d3-4d67-457d-bcd7-2176bd850bd4@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260925122848.GD163130@ziepe.ca>



On 9/25/26 07:28, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2026 at 09:20:02AM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 07:50:18PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> Why does the GPU driver have to request this? Why can't the iommu
>>> driver know that this is a special device that can use this magic fast
>>> path and then auto set it when identity is asked for?
>>
>> This is a layering violation either way. Either the IOMMU driver needs to poke
>> into device details and their relations or the device driver needs to poke into
>> IOMMU details.
> 
> There are no device details, this is just a module option in the gpu
> driver.

Well the GPU driver has knowledge whether it's a GPU inside of an APU to 
decide if it's valid.  That information is part of the discovery table 
setup.

> 
>> This is not perfect but to some degree unavoidable with these highly integrated
>> SOCs.
> 
> This is exactly the sort of hacky thing ACPI should describe so the
> drivers can just turn things on automatically.
> 
> Who is ever going to track down and figure out it is OK to set these
> kinds of module options in the first place? There is general negative
> sentiment in the kernel to doing things like this with modue options.
> 
> How does Windows do it? There certainly isn't a "module option" there?
> 
> Jason

This specific one I don't know; but these kinds of things usually end up 
in knobs in a UI that plumb some IPC deep into the driver stack.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-25 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-08  4:12 [PATCH v2 0/2] IOMMU Performance Optimization support Mario Limonciello
2026-09-08  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] iommu/amd: Add PerfOpt IOMMU performance optimization support Mario Limonciello
2026-09-24 22:50   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  0:03     ` Mario Limonciello
2026-09-25  0:17       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  0:21         ` Mario Limonciello
2026-09-25  7:20     ` Joerg Roedel
2026-09-25 12:28       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25 13:11         ` Mario Limonciello [this message]
2026-09-25 22:39           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-26  0:33             ` Mario Limonciello
2026-09-28 12:08               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 15:32                 ` Mario Limonciello
2026-09-28 17:11                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 17:15                     ` Mario Limonciello
2026-09-29  2:53                       ` Deucher, Alexander
2026-09-28  5:17     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-09-25  7:30   ` Joerg Roedel
2026-09-08  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] drm/amdgpu: Enable PerfOpt IOMMU perf optimization when GPU in identity domain Mario Limonciello
2026-09-20 14:10 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] IOMMU Performance Optimization support Mario Limonciello
2026-09-20 16:27 ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-24 11:42 ` Joerg Roedel
2026-09-24 13:01   ` Deucher, Alexander
2026-09-24 13:50     ` Joerg Roedel

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