From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: phasta@kernel.org, alexdeucher@gmail.com, simona.vetter@ffwll.ch,
tursulin@ursulin.net, airlied@gmail.com, felix.kuehling@amd.com,
matthew.brost@intel.com
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/20] dma-buf: use inline lock for the dma-fence-array
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 14:53:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52d862d2-fd26-4770-91ab-9a2ea8073282@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54bdf125bec4dd612d45fc96bb81f03e5a432b02.camel@mailbox.org>
On 11/7/25 13:04, Philipp Stanner wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-10-31 at 14:16 +0100, Christian König wrote:
>> Just as proof of concept and minor cleanup.
>
> I maintain that even relatively simple commits should give a new reader
> ore one who's browsing through the log in 3 years a rough idea what's
> going on.
>
> That is: quickly describe what the situation (motivation) is and what
> the commit does.
>
> At the very least "proof of concept" is nothing anyone would expect in
> a non-RFC patch. To me as a non-expert in dma-buf it's not clear at all
> whether this patch here is actually necessary, i.e., solves a problem.
Proof of concept in the sense "I use this patch to test the concept with with the kernel unit tests and robots".
> I also don't see how replacing one lock position with another is a
> "cleanup". Sharing spinlocks is perfectly legal and will remain so, no?
Well that's the more interesting question.
On the one hand I'm now pretty sure that allowing those shared fences was a really bad idea, there is simply no valid use case for them.
On the other hand changing all the existing implementations would be tons of work with limited gain. I already tried that before and without some intermediate solution like this here it would be an enormous patch set touching all current implementations at the same time.
Regards,
Christian.
>
> P.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-12 13:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-31 13:16 Independence for dma_fences! v2 Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 01/20] dma-buf: cleanup dma_fence_describe v2 Christian König
2025-10-31 14:04 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 02/20] dma-buf: rework stub fence initialisation v2 Christian König
2025-10-31 14:05 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-11-04 15:01 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-11-06 13:16 ` Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 03/20] dma-buf: protected fence ops by RCU v2 Christian König
2025-10-31 14:29 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-11-06 13:14 ` Christian König
2025-11-07 11:09 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 04/20] dma-buf: detach fence ops on signal Christian König
2025-11-07 11:04 ` Philipp Stanner
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 05/20] dma-buf: inline spinlock for fence protection Christian König
2025-11-07 11:59 ` Philipp Stanner
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 06/20] dma-buf: use inline lock for the stub fence Christian König
2025-11-04 15:05 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 07/20] dma-buf: use inline lock for the dma-fence-array Christian König
2025-11-05 8:50 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-11-07 12:04 ` Philipp Stanner
2025-11-12 13:53 ` Christian König [this message]
2025-11-12 14:00 ` Philipp Stanner
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 08/20] dma-buf: use inline lock for the dma-fence-chain Christian König
2025-11-04 15:08 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 09/20] drm/sched: use inline locks for the drm-sched-fence Christian König
2025-11-04 15:12 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-11-06 13:23 ` Christian König
2025-11-06 13:45 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-11-07 8:33 ` Philipp Stanner
2025-11-12 13:58 ` Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 10/20] drm/amdgpu: clean up and unify hw fence handling Christian König
2025-11-04 15:14 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 11/20] drm/amdgpu: fix KFD eviction fence enable_signaling path Christian König
2025-11-04 16:28 ` Philipp Stanner
2025-11-06 13:43 ` Christian König
2025-11-06 16:37 ` Kuehling, Felix
2025-11-06 16:46 ` Christian König
2025-11-06 17:07 ` Kuehling, Felix
2025-11-06 17:09 ` Christian König
2025-11-06 17:25 ` Kuehling, Felix
2025-11-13 14:37 ` Christian König
2025-11-13 17:46 ` Kuehling, Felix
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 12/20] drm/amdgpu: independence for the amdgpu_fence! Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 13/20] drm/amdgpu: independence for the amdgpu_eviction_fence! Christian König
2025-11-04 15:45 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 14/20] drm/amdgpu: independence for the amdgpu_vm_tlb_fence! Christian König
2025-11-04 15:45 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 15/20] drm/amdgpu: independence for the amdkfd_fence! Christian König
2025-10-31 14:34 ` Kuehling, Felix
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 16/20] drm/amdgpu: independence for the amdgpu_userq__fence! Christian König
2025-11-04 15:59 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 17/20] drm/xe: Disconnect the low hanging fences from Xe module Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 18/20] drm/xe: Drop HW fence slab Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 19/20] drm/xe: Promote xe_hw_fence_irq to an ref counted object Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 20/20] drm/xe: Finish disconnect HW fences from module Christian König
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