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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: phasta@kernel.org, alexdeucher@gmail.com, simona.vetter@ffwll.ch,
	tursulin@ursulin.net, airlied@gmail.com, felix.kuehling@amd.com,
	matthew.brost@intel.com
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/20] dma-buf: use inline lock for the dma-fence-array
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 14:53:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52d862d2-fd26-4770-91ab-9a2ea8073282@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54bdf125bec4dd612d45fc96bb81f03e5a432b02.camel@mailbox.org>

On 11/7/25 13:04, Philipp Stanner wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-10-31 at 14:16 +0100, Christian König wrote:
>> Just as proof of concept and minor cleanup.
> 
> I maintain that even relatively simple commits should give a new reader
> ore one who's browsing through the log in 3 years a rough idea what's
> going on.
> 
> That is: quickly describe what the situation (motivation) is and what
> the commit does.
> 
> At the very least "proof of concept" is nothing anyone would expect in
> a non-RFC patch. To me as a non-expert in dma-buf it's not clear at all
> whether this patch here is actually necessary, i.e., solves a problem. 

Proof of concept in the sense "I use this patch to test the concept with with the kernel unit tests and robots".

> I also don't see how replacing one lock position with another is a
> "cleanup". Sharing spinlocks is perfectly legal and will remain so, no?

Well that's the more interesting question.

On the one hand I'm now pretty sure that allowing those shared fences was a really bad idea, there is simply no valid use case for them.

On the other hand changing all the existing implementations would be tons of work with limited gain. I already tried that before and without some intermediate solution like this here it would be an enormous patch set touching all current implementations at the same time.

Regards,
Christian.

> 
> P.
> 
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-12 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-31 13:16 Independence for dma_fences! v2 Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 01/20] dma-buf: cleanup dma_fence_describe v2 Christian König
2025-10-31 14:04   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 02/20] dma-buf: rework stub fence initialisation v2 Christian König
2025-10-31 14:05   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-11-04 15:01   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-11-06 13:16     ` Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 03/20] dma-buf: protected fence ops by RCU v2 Christian König
2025-10-31 14:29   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-11-06 13:14     ` Christian König
2025-11-07 11:09       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 04/20] dma-buf: detach fence ops on signal Christian König
2025-11-07 11:04   ` Philipp Stanner
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 05/20] dma-buf: inline spinlock for fence protection Christian König
2025-11-07 11:59   ` Philipp Stanner
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 06/20] dma-buf: use inline lock for the stub fence Christian König
2025-11-04 15:05   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 07/20] dma-buf: use inline lock for the dma-fence-array Christian König
2025-11-05  8:50   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-11-07 12:04   ` Philipp Stanner
2025-11-12 13:53     ` Christian König [this message]
2025-11-12 14:00       ` Philipp Stanner
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 08/20] dma-buf: use inline lock for the dma-fence-chain Christian König
2025-11-04 15:08   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 09/20] drm/sched: use inline locks for the drm-sched-fence Christian König
2025-11-04 15:12   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-11-06 13:23     ` Christian König
2025-11-06 13:45       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-11-07  8:33     ` Philipp Stanner
2025-11-12 13:58       ` Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 10/20] drm/amdgpu: clean up and unify hw fence handling Christian König
2025-11-04 15:14   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 11/20] drm/amdgpu: fix KFD eviction fence enable_signaling path Christian König
2025-11-04 16:28   ` Philipp Stanner
2025-11-06 13:43     ` Christian König
2025-11-06 16:37       ` Kuehling, Felix
2025-11-06 16:46         ` Christian König
2025-11-06 17:07           ` Kuehling, Felix
2025-11-06 17:09             ` Christian König
2025-11-06 17:25               ` Kuehling, Felix
2025-11-13 14:37                 ` Christian König
2025-11-13 17:46                   ` Kuehling, Felix
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 12/20] drm/amdgpu: independence for the amdgpu_fence! Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 13/20] drm/amdgpu: independence for the amdgpu_eviction_fence! Christian König
2025-11-04 15:45   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 14/20] drm/amdgpu: independence for the amdgpu_vm_tlb_fence! Christian König
2025-11-04 15:45   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 15/20] drm/amdgpu: independence for the amdkfd_fence! Christian König
2025-10-31 14:34   ` Kuehling, Felix
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 16/20] drm/amdgpu: independence for the amdgpu_userq__fence! Christian König
2025-11-04 15:59   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 17/20] drm/xe: Disconnect the low hanging fences from Xe module Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 18/20] drm/xe: Drop HW fence slab Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 19/20] drm/xe: Promote xe_hw_fence_irq to an ref counted object Christian König
2025-10-31 13:16 ` [PATCH 20/20] drm/xe: Finish disconnect HW fences from module Christian König

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